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Old 03-21-2008, 10:50 AM
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Default 100nl FR - JJ in multi way pot against pot sized lead

Is this standard against an unknown?

Is there an argument for overlimping PF?

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Button ($52.70)
SB ($16.70)
BB ($100)
UTG ($32)
UTG+1 ($114.85)
MP1 ($106.30)
Hero ($112.25)
MP3 ($43.50)
CO ($51.85)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with , .
UTG calls $1, 1 fold, MP1 calls $1, Hero raises to $6, 4 folds, BB calls $5, UTG calls $5, MP1 calls $5.

Flop: ($24.50) , , (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 bets $24, Hero folds, BB folds, UTG folds.

Final Pot: $48.50
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Old 03-21-2008, 11:45 AM
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I can't imagine folding there without reads - there aren't too many better flops to ask for with JJ - but I also don't think I've played a single hand of online FR cash before

why the move to FR J?
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you have another recently posted JJ hand against an unknown who min 3bets pf and leads for 3/4th pot on a more coordinated board (8-6 two tone) to which you checkraise

how is this situation scarier
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you have another recently posted JJ hand against an unknown who min 3bets pf and leads for 3/4th pot on a more coordinated board (8-6 two tone) to which you checkraise

how is this situation scarier
This is 4way and effective stacks are much larger
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Would he be betting the pot with a made hand, like a set, wanting to push out the draw?

I think hand analysis would work better if your thought process was included either in general or one each street. Unless it's a test...
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Id always raise pre and always fold flop to unknown.
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I think I probably fold cos of the 2 people to act behind us. Is it bad to call the flop? Just seems a little weak to fold.
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This is 4way and effective stacks are much larger
I missed the effective stacks when i skimmed this at work
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if u call flop you may get pushed on from one of the others to act and fold flop $24 poorer.
Then if you dont get raised you dont want to see a 5, Q, K, A or spade and may be losing anyway.

I fold.
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Would he be betting the pot with a made hand, like a set, wanting to push out the draw?

I think hand analysis would work better if your thought process was included either in general or one each street. Unless it's a test...
Lol this isn't a test, it's a genuine question because I wasn't sure what the best thing to do was. I'm glad I went for the same as wota.


Out of interest, what if he bets $16? I guess what I'm asking is what size do we call, and do we ever raise when he bets?
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