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Old 03-20-2008, 01:31 AM
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Default 200nl FR, JJ vs UTG

200nl, $190 effective, UTG is 12/7 over a fairly small sample, SB is a shortstacking donk with $60

UTG raises to $8, we are in MP with JJ and call, SB calls, BB folds

Flop - pot $24

SB checks, UTG bets $15

Is the best plan to raise/fold, raise/call or call and fold to a 2nd barrel from UTG? I'm thinking raise/call is suicide.
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Old 03-20-2008, 02:10 AM
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Standard is call and fold to a second barrel against such an opponent.
However if the turn is the 7h/Qh I like bluffing it.
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what if SB check / raises all in for 45$ more ? I guess we have to call the full 60$ if UTG calls ? This can get ugly. Just throwing it out there. Want your point of view plz.
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Old 03-20-2008, 05:11 AM
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what if SB check / raises all in for 45$ more ? I guess we have to call the full 60$ if UTG calls ? This can get ugly. Just throwing it out there. Want your point of view plz.
I don't think UTG ever just calls if SB shoves. If UTG shoves over the top we obv fold, if UTG folds we call imo. IF UTG does just call SB's shove I think I still fold.
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yeah if UTG plays back in any way to a c/r it's an insta fold for me.
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