|

03-19-2008, 01:36 PM
|
|
Fish
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Cambridge UK
Posts: 34
Limits Played: $0.05-$0.10 NL
|
|
AK - good call?
Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.03/$0.06
6 players
Stacks were all around the £4.00 mark. No specific reads, but players were between 45%-65% vpip if that helps. UTG was about 50%
Should I have bet the flop? Seemed a bit risky oop with 4 people still in. I didnt expect 4 callers lol. I would have cbet with less people, or in better position.
Perhaps I should have check-raised the turn? as everyone seemed weak or had a draw. I didnt think of that at the time, I simply called with nice odds to hit an A or K.
Comments appreciated
Pre-flop: ( 6 players) Hero is BB with 
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, Hero raises to $0.36, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls.
Flop:    ( $1.86, 5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Button checks.
Turn:  ( $1.86, 5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets $0.2, UTG+1 calls, Button folds, SB calls, Hero calls.
River:  ( $2.66, 4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets $0.97, 2 folds, Hero calls.
Results:
Final pot: $4.6
|
| Sponsored Links |
|

03-19-2008, 08:14 PM
|
 |
NL20 Grinder...
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 6,731
Limits Played: $0.10-$0.25 NL
|
|
When you have this many callers preflop at this level there is no point betting a flop that completely misses you.
|

03-20-2008, 02:44 AM
|
|
Fish
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Cambridge UK
Posts: 34
Limits Played: $0.05-$0.10 NL
|
|
Glad I got that bit right. See.. I'm learning!
I think 3/1 about the guy having Ax at the end was good a price. I didn't put him on a 2, 3 or 6 because of calling the PF raise a little oop and waiting until the river to bet. Which just left pp's and Ax hands. I ruled out 99-AA as I thought he would bet the turn at least with 99/JJ. Which in my mind just left 44/55/77/88 that had me beat.
I was proud of my logic on this one. My g/f who plays a little just looked at me blankly and said she would have folded ;p
__________________
-------------------------------------
Currently reading: Sklansky's Theory of Poker
Currently  Soon to be
|

03-20-2008, 03:11 AM
|
 |
Poker Professional
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,579
|
|
you have ace high, guy is betting into a 4way on the river and you expect him to have worse?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by KidPoker23
just cause you are ballin' TA doesnt mean you can look down on us all.
actually it does. continue.
|
|

03-20-2008, 04:16 AM
|
 |
Super Moderator
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Nottingham, UK
Posts: 6,120
Limits Played: $0.50-$1 NL
|
|
Don't cbet into that many people, you hardly ever take the pot down.
As played call on the turn is fine.
I think your logic for his hand range on the river is a little off, he can definitely have a 9x hand. In fact I think that line is a 9 almost always so I fold the river without reads. Calling isn't horrible though given how much they will think they can bluff you off with weak aces, and your odds are reasonable.
__________________
For Free Money, Poker Gifts and Rakeback I recommend PokerSourceOnline.
I have to recommend Cardrunners for superb poker coaching. It was honestly the single biggest improvement in my game signing up there! Sign-up fee might seem steep, but it pays itself back within weeks.
|

03-20-2008, 04:26 AM
|
|
Fish
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Cambridge UK
Posts: 34
Limits Played: $0.05-$0.10 NL
|
|
part of the reason for calling was that I was last to act at that point, so just down to me and him. £0.20 into a £1.80 pot on the turn was pretty weak. Nobody raised so I thought someone in his position with Ace high could well be trying to bluff it.
If someone else had called, or I had two more people to act I'd have probably folded. Just the way this hand went I thought it was an ok call. Also would have folded if I didn't have the K for the best Ace.
Blatantly bad call then or just a dubious one? If it's a bad leak I'd like to plug it
(edit: posted this before reading David's response.. thanks matey)
__________________
-------------------------------------
Currently reading: Sklansky's Theory of Poker
Currently  Soon to be
|

03-20-2008, 05:19 AM
|
|
Mike McDermott
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 4,001
Limits Played: $1-$2 NL
|
|
You have 5 limpers pre flop. Raise to 54c minimum.
Flop standard
Turn meh it's so small
River like piv said he is never bluffing here in a 4way raised pot imo.
I am amazed nobody has mentioned the possiblity he has a queen 
|

03-20-2008, 06:06 AM
|
|
Stu Ungar
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: London
Posts: 2,673
Limits Played: $0.05-$0.10 NL
|
|
Flop and turn are standard but I'd raise more.
River I fold.
__________________
For poker, casino and sports betting news visit http://www.onlinecasinonews.com. They have a writer on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays who is immensely talented at everything he does.
|

03-20-2008, 06:10 AM
|
 |
Poker Hustler
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 897
Limits Played: $0.25-$0.50 NL
|
|
make it at least 50c preflop, I'd put it to 60c personally. You're going to be out of position the whole hand and you have a limp parade in front of you with a wide range of holdings
flop is as everyone else said, don't cbet with air into 73935035 people
turn bet is an easy call for pot odds
river is a definite fold - 5 people saw the flop and you think they all missed?
|

03-20-2008, 06:14 AM
|
 |
Super Moderator
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Nottingham, UK
Posts: 6,120
Limits Played: $0.50-$1 NL
|
|
Just reading preflop, I make it 57c. Pot +1bb cos we're OOP if my maths is right.
Yeah villain could obv have a queen but I think a 9 is more likely. Do they not minbet the flop instead of the turn with a queen alot of the time?
__________________
For Free Money, Poker Gifts and Rakeback I recommend PokerSourceOnline.
I have to recommend Cardrunners for superb poker coaching. It was honestly the single biggest improvement in my game signing up there! Sign-up fee might seem steep, but it pays itself back within weeks.
|
| Thread Tools |
|
|
| Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:52 AM.
|
 |
|