Home
News
Articles
Site Reviews
Book Reviews
Interviews
Chat
Tournaments
60% Rakeback
50% RakebackNew!
125% Rakeback
Probabilities
Glossary
Poker Gear
Links
Advertise
User Name  
 
Password
Cookie?  
 
 
Poker Players on Launchpoker.com
LaunchPoker.com provides you with all the information you need about this year's WSOP event, from the 2008 WSOP schedule to the latest 2008 WSOP updates.
Every casino sited on our site is secure and reliable. Get ready to gamble big time!
Online poker reviews of rooms such as Full Tilt Poker, Poker Stars and Titan Poker.
Extras

PokerListings

Go Back PokerForums.org > Strategy Discussion > Ring Hand Analysis > 200nl flopped nuts facing min raise, sick turn card

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 ()  
Old 03-16-2008, 04:38 PM
Mike McDermott
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 4,001
Trade Rating: (2)
Limits Played: $1-$2 NL
Send a message via AIM to jharding666
Default 200nl flopped nuts facing min raise, sick turn card

Bad 3bet size? It doesn't set up a turn shove very well, this is a leak in my game for sure.

Is the turn just a shove?

villain is 40/20/1 over 50 hands

2 hands we have seen:

1) He smooth called AK in the sb and donked the turn with Ace high after flop was checked around

2) He smooth called 99 in the sb, c/c flopped set, checked turn and checked river when filled up

BossMedia Game #999223447: Table Table :TH 849 - $1.00/$2.00 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:07:50 - 2008/03/16
Seat 1: Adriatic ($385.13)
Seat 2: Hero ($221.35)
Seat 3: Ajronfesk ($218.25)
Seat 4: stoned_E ($216.62)
Seat 5: _kala_ ($212.00)
Hero posts the big blind of $2.00
Adriatic posts the small blind of $1.00
_kala_ is the button
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [ ]
Ajronfesk folds
stoned_E raises $7.00
_kala_ folds
Adriatic folds
Hero calls $7.00
*** FLOP *** [ ]
Hero bets $12.00
stoned_E raises $24.00
Hero raises $72.00
stoned_E calls $72.00
*** TURN *** [ ] []
Hero ???

Pot is about $158 with $144 left iirc
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #2 ()  
Old 03-16-2008, 05:00 PM
davidab157's Avatar
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Nottingham, UK
Posts: 6,114
Trade Rating: (1)
Limits Played: $0.50-$1 NL
Send a message via AIM to davidab157
Default

I'd raise it pot on the flop which by my (tired and probably wrong) calculations would be up to $87. Nice easy turn shove after that.

As played, I shove but not liking it so much.
__________________
For Free Money, Poker Gifts and Rakeback I recommend PokerSourceOnline.

I have to recommend Cardrunners for superb poker coaching. It was honestly the single biggest improvement in my game signing up there! Sign-up fee might seem steep, but it pays itself back within weeks.
Reply With Quote
  #3 ()  
Old 03-16-2008, 05:06 PM
Mike McDermott
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 4,001
Trade Rating: (2)
Limits Played: $1-$2 NL
Send a message via AIM to jharding666
Default

Given the 2 hands he's shown down, what do we think his range is?
Reply With Quote
  #4 ()  
Old 03-16-2008, 05:45 PM
River Rat
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 290
Trade Rating: (0)
Limits Played: $0.10-$0.25 NL
Default

Wow. Tough hand. What ended up happening?
__________________
Track Your Opponents With Poker Edge. Get It Here!
http://tinyurl.com/34f9ex
Reply With Quote
  #5 ()  
Old 03-16-2008, 06:11 PM
ChieF's Avatar
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Arizona
Posts: 1,264
Trade Rating: (4)
Limits Played: $1-$2 NL
Send a message via AIM to ChieF
Default

I dont like shoving here, you make villian fold alot of his hands here, I rather check/call and if he checks turn shove it on a non club board.

As for 3bet sizing I make it anywhere from 68$ to 74$.
Reply With Quote
  #6 ()  
Old 03-16-2008, 06:21 PM
piv's Avatar
piv piv is offline
Poker Professional
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,578
Trade Rating: (1)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jharding666 View Post
Given the 2 hands he's shown down, what do we think his range is?
sets/two pair/Ac with a pair all call. I also 3bet flop bigger to like 85.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by KidPoker23 View Post
just cause you are ballin' TA doesnt mean you can look down on us all.

actually it does. continue.
Reply With Quote
  #7 ()  
Old 03-17-2008, 01:05 AM
davidab157's Avatar
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Nottingham, UK
Posts: 6,114
Trade Rating: (1)
Limits Played: $0.50-$1 NL
Send a message via AIM to davidab157
Default

btw, is your called pf standard for you? I'm not a fan of calling SC's OOP too often.
__________________
For Free Money, Poker Gifts and Rakeback I recommend PokerSourceOnline.

I have to recommend Cardrunners for superb poker coaching. It was honestly the single biggest improvement in my game signing up there! Sign-up fee might seem steep, but it pays itself back within weeks.
Reply With Quote
  #8 ()  
Old 03-17-2008, 01:19 AM
Mike McDermott
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 4,001
Trade Rating: (2)
Limits Played: $1-$2 NL
Send a message via AIM to jharding666
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by davidab157 View Post
btw, is your called pf standard for you? I'm not a fan of calling SC's OOP too often.
You saw the thread last week where I 3bet it. I do a bit of everything
Reply With Quote
  #9 ()  
Old 03-17-2008, 09:43 AM
Poker Hustler
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 959
Trade Rating: (0)
Default

it seems he tries to slowplay / trap his very strong hands and I guess he plays his vulnerable hands strongly. I put him on 2 pairs or a combination of flush draw / str8 draw or pair + flush draw. I don't want to guess here cuz any club, any card that pairs the board, a J. All these puts us in a shitty spot.

Reason to shove : pot is large enuff to win right now. If we check and he checks, we are screwed on the river if a card we don't like comes. What do we do ? Check / fold if a Jd comes up ? What about the 9d ?

I shove this turn, I don't want him to check behind if I check the turn and get a free card. There is so much bluff potential on the river.
I just hope he does not have the flush already.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:13 PM.

   Designed by
      
No Deposit Bonus
Poker Strategy
Poker Rooms
Lucky Poker
Poker Forum
Poker en ligne
Pokerspiele
En ligne poker
Poker Rakeback
Poker italiano
Online Poker
Poker francais
Rakeback
Online Poker Strategy
PartyPoker Bonus Codes
CD Poker review
Poker Site USA
Full Tilt bonus code
   
   
Nowadays in the Internet the Players are looking for a good Casino Bonus to find the best possible options for online Roulette.There is now the option of RtlPoker and a nice Casino Bonus to play some other games then just Poker.
The ideal casino site for gokkasten and even online poker including online casino games that can be found on mijn online casino, your casino information site for when gambling online or even offline.
Party Poker bonus code & room review
Tony G talks about his experinces in his blog
REVIEW OF PARADISE POKER WEBSITE
Online Poker Room Directory and latest poker news
Best Online Poker info on Internet!
Ultimate Bet new 40% deposit bonus
Copyright © 2004-2008 PokerForums.org, a Merendi Networks Inc. project.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5 ©2008, Crawlability, Inc.