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Old 03-06-2008, 03:30 AM
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Seat 1: SB ($30.15 in chips)
Seat 4: BB ($12.40 in chips)
Seat 6: UTG ($23.75 in chips)
Seat 7: MP ($25.80 in chips)
Seat 8: Hero ($31.25 in chips)
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SB posts blind ($0.15), BB posts blind ($0.25).

PRE-FLOP
UTG calls $0.25, MP folds, Hero bets $1.50, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls $1.25.

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UTG checks, Hero bets $2.75, UTG calls $2.75.

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UTG checks, Hero bets $7, UTG calls $7.

RIVER
UTG bets $12.50 and is all-in, Hero feels like paying $12.50 to see a rivered royal...

pretty sick spot, guy is 19/10/2 over 100 hands, hasn't been silly yet. anyone folding top set here?

did i mention ongame is rigged?

he shouldn't have AT, i dont think he goes this ape shit with two pair/set. the hand that makes sense is KThh.
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Old 03-06-2008, 05:26 AM
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He can also have JT here I reckon

I don't think a 19/10/2 will be turning a made hand in to a bluff here so folding feels terrible but looks good imo

If you call, I wouldn't blame you though
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I don't think a 19/10/2 will be turning a made hand in to a bluff here
He limped UTG and it's 25nl so all notions of him being in anyway savvy and knowing about turning hands into a bluff go out the window I think.

Given the stacks on the river I can see why you want to call. Problem is he's played the hand so passively so why is he shoving now if he's behind? You could say he might shove a missed draw thinking there's some FE but every draw in the history of poker just hit that river. I think this is a T soooooooooooooo much of the time.

I suppose though, with this being 25nl he could turn up with 2pair/some weird slowplayed set so it's not a terrible call, plus you get to see what he limps with.

So yeah, I dunno. Gambooool if you like variance.
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pot odds here are 2.8:1, so you would need to win only 25% of the time here for break even sklansky bucks. that being said, I do fold here and proceed to tilt violently.
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plus you get to see what he limps with.

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This information isn't worth this much. You never play enough with the same person to be able to make use of it
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i figured he can still have kk/qq and i like throwing money away so i called.

he had royal flush fwiw.
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This information isn't worth this much. You never play enough with the same person to be able to make use of it
well it does if you see some serious leak and then make it your life goal to sit next to them at every opportunity with a nice donkey green icon next to their name.
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It ssssssoooo very sucks, but it's a fold

but' will I be able to make it here... depends really of my state of mind...

if tilt / anger / bad emotions = call
if smart / concentrated / focused = fold
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if tilt / anger / bad emotions = call
if smart / concentrated / focused = fold
honestly i'd be able to fold this at stars with the time bank. ongame gives you i think 10ish seconds in total which is great for hands/hour but really destroys your winrate when i make bad calls like this because i haven't got a few extra seconds to think rationally and save the 50bb.

thought process is basically 'lol get FUCKED you've called me down with a draw and sucked out on top set, whatever i beat kings i call'
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you have only 10 seconds to make a call ?????????????
wtf is that... It's like "ok he was in position # and called the flop, then on turn he ... so is it possible that" (sorry your hand is folded by this time
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