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Old 03-06-2008, 03:21 AM
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Default NL10 JJ in position, fire the turn?

No reads, PAHUD is gay blahblahblah.

Anyhows what do ya'll do on this turn?

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MP1 ($19.65)
Hero ($9.80)
CO ($1.55)
Button ($16.65)
SB ($3.80)
BB ($26.15)
UTG ($13.65)
UTG+1 ($10.60)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J, J.
2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.35, Hero raises to $1.2, 4 folds, MP1 calls $0.85.

Flop: ($2.55) Q, 6, Q (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $1.75, MP1 calls $1.75.

Turn: ($6.05) 7 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero ???

Final Pot: $6.05
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Old 03-06-2008, 03:34 AM
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no. never. flush draw isn't going away, you only fold out 88-TT and 7x/6x hands and never fold a queen.
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Bet $4.25 for value, checking isn't terrible without reads
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bet, don't let him draw out with AKd. i go for about $4.
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no. never. flush draw isn't going away, you only fold out 88-TT and 7x/6x hands and never fold a queen.
Regardless of what JHarding and David say I am with Piv on this one. I check behind.
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so kre8r what do you do when the or hits on the river and he bets out $5? I think the hand becomes so much easier to play with a bet on the turn as we will get value from worse hands and also a good chance at a free showdown on the river. If we check he's going to bet way more often on the river and put us in a shitty spot.
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so kre8r what do you do when the or hits on the river and he bets out $5? I think the hand becomes so much easier to play with a bet on the turn as we will get value from worse hands and also a good chance at a free showdown on the river. If we check he's going to bet way more often on the river and put us in a shitty spot.
As Piv pointed out there are not enough hands that we are folding out to make a bet here have much value. Very rarely enough fold equity against a drawing donk since the blanket read on everyone is they suck. Trust us when we say that betting here at NL10 is just not worth it. I think we have decent showdown value if the river doesnt come crazy so I say keep the pot small.
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Why would we want to fold out a drawing donk?
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Why would we want to fold out a drawing donk?
Not saying we do want to but we may already be crushed so I see no reason to build a pot in this situation.
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