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Old 03-02-2008, 03:29 PM
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Default 200nl - Turned nuts, sour river against reckless villain

villain here is 47/28/3 over several hundred hands. As you can see from their stats they are very reckless.


Oh, and this is the type of player that is capable of betting very big with the flush. The pot is $90 on the river for those of you who can't do the maths



NL $200 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - 18:04:20 02/03/2008 ET
Seat 6 is the button. Small Blind $1, Big Blind $2
Seat 1 (playing) : CarlyBear, amount $340.75, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 2 (playing) : Hero, amount $546.35, amount bet $0, penalty (None)

Seat 3 (playing) : pakolainen, amount $98, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 4 (playing) : motherofdarkness, amount $171.80, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 5 (sitOut) : troller1, amount $189.55, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 6 (playing) : massagestud, amount $124.31, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
CarlyBear: Small Blind ($1)
Hero: Big Blind ($2)
** Dealing Down Cards **
Dealt to Hero: [, ]
pakolainen: Fold
motherofdarkness: Fold
massagestud: Fold
CarlyBear: Raise ($6)
Hero: Call ($4)
** Dealing Flop **
Community cards: [, , ]
CarlyBear: Bet ($12)
Hero: Call ($12)
** Dealing Turn **
Community cards: []
CarlyBear: Check ($0)
Hero: Bet ($28)
CarlyBear: Call ($28)
** Dealing River **
Community cards: []
CarlyBear: Bet ($120)
Hero: ???
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Old 03-02-2008, 04:02 PM
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I fold. Even though he's reckless, I don't think he's bluffing here. A flush beats you, 9-10 beats you to a better str8. The check/call on the turn smells a draw, not an overpair. The flush draw IMO but he's well capable of calling a gutter draw here with 9-10 (suited or not).

I would of betted more on the turn (pot was 34$ right ?). I always bet at least the pot in that kind of situation, but against a loose type, I overbet having the nuts. They will pay you off. I would of fired 50$ on the turn. If he would of called or not that 50$, I don't know.

I have to let go the hand. It's unfortunate if I got bluffed, but I would of folded. It's true stats are loose, but, loose player do hit sometimes, let's not forget that.

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Old 03-02-2008, 06:16 PM
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wtf mister.x there is no possible boat.

Anyway I think your hand is very underepped and I think he does this with enough hands that you beat on that river given his stats. At the very least I think I call.
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Old 03-02-2008, 07:21 PM
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wtf mister.x there is no possible boat.

Anyway I think your hand is very underepped and I think he does this with enough hands that you beat on that river given his stats. At the very least I think I call.

wtf, i swear I saw a paired board

sorry sorry sorry, ill edit post
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Old 03-02-2008, 08:42 PM
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Just a feeling but I dont see him calling the turn with the gutshot, so that leaves AJ, KJ, etc.., 2 pair, or the flush draw...very tough call, this is how loose players get paid, playing the flush draw to the river..they also have the advantage of bluffing the flush on the river if they smell anything but a flush..very tough call, but i say call hes full of crap..I like your chances here, he probably think hes got u kicked, or at least higher 2 pair, likely he doesnt see you calling $6 preflop with 86 if u are somewhat tight and he is loose, i dont assume he has the flush here, but still hard call when someone drop a big bet with a flush draw on the table, also classic bluff move though...also completely possible he hit a small set lets not forget and isnt even considering u have a straight, his preflop bet is a classic small pair bet...so many possiblities..In the final analysis probably not worth it to call, let the bastard think ur soft and then rape him later when u get de nuts, i try never to get too attached to any hand...

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edit nm call tho thats easy imo
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with my luck lately hed have 910d
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Thoughts on raising the flop?

I fold this, it's either a flush or air and I'm not all that sure what kind of air hands he'll c/c the turn with.
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