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02-28-2008, 12:18 AM
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TPTK doesn't feel good
SB's VPIP is 45 over 110 hands. UTG is super tight.
Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter
MP2: $7.25
CO: $31.75
Hero (BTN): $69.85
SB: $77.80
BB: $33
UTG: $48.30
UTG+1: $48.50
MP1: $52.25
Pre-Flop:  dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG calls $0.50, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.50, CO folds, Hero raises to $2.75, SB calls $2.50, BB folds, UTG calls $2.25, MP2 folds
Flop: ($9.25)  (3 Players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $6, SB calls $6, UTG calls $6
Turn: ($27.25)  (3 Players)
SB bets $12, UTG calls $12, Hero?
Last edited by RakeGuard.Com; 02-28-2008 at 12:30 AM.
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02-28-2008, 06:06 AM
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fold. If UTG = super tight, he must have some kind of a strong hand here for just calling and calling. AA or AhKh? You can't raise here because UTG will call. I wouldn't be scared of small blind here, I think it's an attempt to either buy a free card on the cheap here most likely), but you are probably beat by UTG. You are facing 2 players here. I don't think top pair is good enuff against 2 players. in this situation. I'd fold and probably this thing will go to showdown, so you can take notes fort the future on those 2 players.
BTW : I check that flop when both checked to me.
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02-28-2008, 09:44 PM
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Unless you have specific reads that UTG will call with a hand like 2 pair or a set I shove for value.
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02-28-2008, 10:06 PM
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Interesting. Two opposite responses. KRE8R, its a bit hard to understand what you meant. You think UTG would call with a better hand, yet you would shove? Please clarify.
I ended up folding the turn, and I think I'm happy with how I played it. Flop bet was a standard C-bet, which gave me A LOT of info going into the turn. After folding the turn, a blank fell on the river. SB bet 30 and UTG folded.
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02-28-2008, 10:09 PM
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utg the super tight/aggressive type or weak/tight?
i raise, aj/aq that floated have caught an ace, plus no one is reppin a ton of strength, now there's two fds and a straight draw still out there.
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02-28-2008, 10:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RakeGuard.Com
Interesting. Two opposite responses. KRE8R, its a bit hard to understand what you meant. You think UTG would call with a better hand, yet you would shove? Please clarify.
I ended up folding the turn, and I think I'm happy with how I played it. Flop bet was a standard C-bet, which gave me A LOT of info going into the turn. After folding the turn, a blank fell on the river. SB bet 30 and UTG folded.
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Basically I was asking if you think UTG would flat call with a hand like 2 pair or a set on that turn instead of raising.
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02-28-2008, 11:07 PM
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I could only assume that one of them had me beat. Big bets were flying around, and no one was really hesitating. It really felt as though one of them had a monster and that my TPTK was in deep poop. So yes, I could see villain slowplaying there, even with a draw heavy board.
After the fact, he did not hesitate to put the UTG all in on the river as well. I think I saved money there, but I'm still not sure.
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02-28-2008, 11:13 PM
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You are only scared of 55, TT, 77, and AA I would say. I think AQ, AJ and such may come along plus fold equity.
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02-29-2008, 09:18 PM
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if utg has 2pair/set and is any sort of decent player he should have raised already at some point. sb has lead less than half pot after c/cing. a7/a5/at are possible but so is other naked crap or a draw. folding is out of the question. calling leaves you in so many gross river spots so jam it in.
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03-01-2008, 02:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KRE8R
Unless you have specific reads that UTG will call with a hand like 2 pair or a set I shove for value.
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