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02-24-2008, 01:01 PM
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100nl 3bet pot with overs small effective stacks
Villain is 32/11/2 over about 60 hands. Really no strong reads to go on except he calls a bit too lightly preflop. No reads at all on him in 3bet pots.
How do we proceed on this flop given his stack size?
$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight | fold when you know you're beat (BETA)
Stacks:
UTG ( $102.70)
CO ($109.00)
BTN ($52.65)
Hero ($105.00)
BB ( $59.65)
Pre-flop: ( $1.5, 5 players) Hero is SB
1 fold, CO calls $1, BTN bets $3, Hero bets $12, 1 fold, CO folds, BTN calls $9.50.
Flop:  ( $27, 2 players)
Hero ???
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02-24-2008, 01:03 PM
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Fire 16$ and check/fold unless you improve
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02-24-2008, 01:05 PM
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Meh, I see you getting in trouble here often against this guy. What do you honestly think his range is for calling a 3bet preflop? I say bare minimum TT, JJ, and QQ. I think no matter how you look at it you are losing some money on a flop like this against an opponent like this. I seriously dont even cbet this.
Also is it normal for you to 3bet a short stack like this with AJo? I am genuinely wondering since 3betting is just now becoming a part of my game.
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02-24-2008, 01:06 PM
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He raised quite liberally from LP, AJ is way ahead of his range.
I think he calls too much preflop so I would put him on a wider range than TT+. Like he has called OOP with some very dubious hands in the past, I think it's safe to say he'll call alot of Ax/suited connector/midpair type hands. I don't think he's too aware of stack sizes and how they affect what his calling range should be.
And he's got 53bb, so not exactly short as such.
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02-24-2008, 01:07 PM
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His calling range is so much wider then A/Q+TT+ kr8
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02-24-2008, 01:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by davidab157
He raised quite liberally from LP, AJ is way ahead of his range.
I think he calls too much preflop so I would put him on a wider range that TT+
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But you really think he calls your 3bet with anything worse than that after raising preflop? You gotta think he already figured his hand was good enough to raise with a PFR % of only 11. Its not like you were the raiser and he called. If that were the case I would cbet for sure but since this is a 3bet pot against this guy I seriously dont do it on that board.
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02-24-2008, 01:08 PM
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ChieF how can we bet/fold this? He's got $40 left with a $25 pot, if we bet we're going with the hand.
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02-24-2008, 01:09 PM
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Quote:
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ChieF how can we bet/fold this? He's got $40 left with a $25 pot, if we bet we're going with the hand.
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This is why I dont feel right about the 3bet with AJo preflop or a cbet honestly.
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02-24-2008, 01:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by davidab157
ChieF how can we bet/fold this? He's got $40 left with a $25 pot, if we bet we're going with the hand.
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Your right didnt look at the stack size, check/fold imo, if your gonna 3bet and not cbet a flop that doesnt hit you because his stack size why are we 3 betting even tho we know were ahead of his range?
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02-24-2008, 01:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KRE8R
But you really think he calls your 3bet with anything worse than that after raising preflop? You gotta think he already figured his hand was good enough to raise with a PFR % of only 11. Its not like you were the raiser and he called. If that were the case I would cbet for sure but since this is a 3bet pot against this guy I seriously dont do it on that board.
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Seriously, he raised a ton of hands from late position and was calling far too much with weird holdings, I really don't think he's only calling monsters here.
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