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Old 02-17-2008, 05:17 PM
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Default NL5 - Cbet station or chase flush?

Any reason not to just chase the flush for cheap against this villain here?
Villain was 67/11/1.25 over 50 hands.



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Seat 1: grix0r ($9.93 in chips)
Seat 2: quadeeights ($6.12 in chips)
Seat 3: meeerrbusch ($7.55 in chips)
Seat 4: KRE8R ($16.68 in chips)
Seat 5: KASD24 ($6.78 in chips)
Seat 6: sgtpoppy ($6.17 in chips)
KASD24: posts small blind $0.02
sgtpoppy: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to KRE8R [ ]
grix0r: folds
quadeeights: folds
meeerrbusch: calls $0.05
KRE8R: raises $0.20 to $0.25
KASD24: folds
sgtpoppy: folds
meeerrbusch: calls $0.20
*** FLOP *** [ ]
meeerrbusch: bets $0.20
KRE8R: ??


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Old 02-17-2008, 07:56 PM
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raise it up now and he'll likely check the turn and you can check behind for a free card. drawing to probably 12 outs here.
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for me it'd depend on how often he donk-bets like that. I'd assume probably not much, meaning he'd be willing to call a raise, so yeah, raise it. If you hit the nuts you wanna make sure you get paid off for it
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raise, most donk-bets are extremely weak and i think you will take it down a lot if you raise. also you want to build the pot so you can stack him for 150BBs if you hit.
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make it 90c.
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Raise is good.

1. Build the pot.
2. Can give us a free card.
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Old 02-18-2008, 08:08 AM
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Tiny bets = weakness. If a raise doesn't win the pot now he'll check the turn.
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I also raise here.

Anywhere from .70 to 1$ seems good to me
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No raise here against a weak player, just call small bets till the river. Fold if you don't hit an Ace or the flush.

He'll make it cheap to draw anyway and he'll call a sizable bet (1$) on the turn if you hit and/or on the river.

If you raise and he reraise-pushes, now you'll have to make a decision to make. Why do that ? It costs us 20¢ for the turn card, probably 50¢ on the river if he bets, or he might even check the turn, for a total cost of 20¢ instead of sticking a raise.

All in all, I think the best play here against him IMO, is to play it passively, and we will still get paid off if we hit. Minimize the cost of the draw. Let's not build a pot here with nothing cuz we probably won't be able to bluff him on the river.

Against a player that knows there is a fold button, a raise would of been ok so we can play an aggressive turn and river bluff if we miss
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mister, we likely have like 50% equity here on the flop. these weak leads are so common and they fold to a raise more than half the time and we're not in bad shape if he calls. he'll either 1. check turn or 2. weak lead turn again and we'll still have odds to draw. you want to build a pot to stack him.
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