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Old 02-14-2008, 04:00 PM
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His line? I am looking at his line and with that river card it screams you are beat to a pulp.
bit weak/tight dont you think? we have the 4th nuts, JT is pretty lol so i basically rule that out. AA/KK have played pretty terrible, and this is the way they can play the two pair hands.
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Why?
No worse hands call and no better hands fold.

We may as well have 62o if we bet this turn. QQ has some showdown value so there's no need to inflate the pot.
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Yeah you've played this fine.

Betting the turn would be dreadful
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Im going to have to gracefully disagree...
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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

40 games 0.053 secs 754 games/sec

Board: Ks Ac 7d 3c Qh
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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 45.000% 45.00% 00.00% 18 0.00 { QcQd }
Hand 1: 55.000% 55.00% 00.00% 22 0.00 { KK+, 77, 33, AQs+, JTs, AQo+, JTo }


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40 games 0.053 secs 754 games/sec

Board: Ks Ac 7d 3c Qh
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 45.000% 45.00% 00.00% 18 0.00 { QcQd }
Hand 1: 55.000% 55.00% 00.00% 22 0.00 { KK+, 77, 33, AQs+, JTs, AQo+, JTo }


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what equity do you think we need to make the raise on the river?
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No worse hands call and no better hands fold.

We may as well have 62o if we bet this turn. QQ has some showdown value so there's no need to inflate the pot.
can't that first statement be said about betting the majority of the rivers we're going to see? When you say QQ has showdown value, I assume you're talking about if the hands are checked down?
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can't that first statement be said about betting the majority of the rivers we're going to see? When you say QQ has showdown value, I assume you're talking about if the hands are checked down?
Yeah we want to see a showdown, but don't want to inflate the pot. Most rivers will not make us want to bet. A queen is a dream river, if he has JT/KK/AA then you just have to give the man his money.
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Here's the pokerstove results that really count, it pretty much gives the same result


Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 46.268% 45.96% 00.31% 28328592 192370.00 { QcQd }
Hand 1: 53.732% 53.42% 00.31% 32929612 192370.00 { KK+, AQs+, AQo+ }


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