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Old 12-06-2007, 11:38 AM
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Default 2 hands at .5/1 help please

What do we think of these 2 hands??
Hand one I was scared of the flush.

Hand 2 this guy was on tilt and started bluffing and trying to buy pots hence the check on teh flop

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saw flop|saw showdown

BB ($77.95)
Hero ($94.15)
MP ($94.40)
Button ($89.50)
SB ($102)
Hero is UTG with .
Pre-Flop:
Hero calls, MP calls, 1 folds, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: (Pot=$4.00) (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $3, MP calls, SB folds, BB folds.

Turn: (Pot=$10.00) (2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks.

River: (Pot=$10.00) (2 players)
Hero bets $9, MP raises to $18, Hero calls.

Results in white below:
Hero has As 2s, A Flush, Ace high
MP has Ks 6s, A Flush, King high
Hero wins $46.00 from pot.



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saw flop|saw showdown

Button ($37.45)
Hero ($57.70)
BB ($96.40)
UTG ($27.05)
MP ($85.90)
CO ($102)
Hero is SB with .
Pre-Flop:
UTG calls, 2 folds, Button raises to $4, Hero raises to $11, 2 folds, Button calls.

Flop: (Pot=$24.00) (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: (Pot=$24.00) (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $12, Hero raises to $27, Button calls All-In.

River: (Pot=$50.00) (2 players, 1 all-in)


Results in white below:
Button has Ac 8c, Two Pairs, Kings and Eights
Hero has Ad Kh, Three of a Kind, Kings
Hero wins $50.00 from Main Pot.


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Old 12-06-2007, 11:46 AM
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Hand 1 - fold pf. As played I 3bet the river, it's so unlikely he has a 3x hand limping from MP. 77 and 88 we can fear but he calls enough with weaker hands to make a 3bet +ev imo.

Hand 2 - I raise bigger pf, $16-17. As played bet the flop unless you have a strong read (which you say you did so fair enough). You HAVE to bet the turn though, you need to build the pot.
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Old 12-06-2007, 11:58 AM
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hand 1 happened just after hand 2 so I decided what the hell ill give it a call.

And yea on hand 2 I realized after i checked the turn I could have screwed myself over giving him the chance to outdraw me. Thank god he bet and we got it all in there.

o and thank you
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Old 12-06-2007, 12:06 PM
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Hand 1, fold pf but I quite like the turn check, because bet flop/check turn/bet river looks bluffy. What's with just calling the raise though, you have the nuts?!
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Old 12-06-2007, 12:07 PM
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NO i was afraid of the house draw. thought maybe he had 77 or 88. It has happened to me so many times I just got scared and only called. Now i regret it knowin I could have gotten 60 more bucks.
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Old 12-06-2007, 12:57 PM
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Woops, yeah, didn't notice the paired three.
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Old 12-06-2007, 03:45 PM
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Hand 1:
Hmm..... I'd like to know if we had any reads on the villain. I hate not 3betting here but remaining stack sizes make it a bit shit if we know he only shoves on us with the FH (3 bet/folding here is disgusting). He can call with worse though. I think 77 is incredibly unlikely given that he only called the flop, 88 is more likely but I think he bets the turn with this. If I was to 3bet I would make it between $50 and $60. Calling isn't terrible depending on our reads.

Hand 2:
We need to re raise more PF because we are out of position. Anything from $14 to $18 sounds good as it sets us up to open shove most flops.
Checking flop isn't bad given reads, checking turn I don't like, got to put in a bet here really.
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Old 12-06-2007, 04:13 PM
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Hand 1: Bet turn. I am not sure what we hope to achieve by checking. Betting flop to CR turn is the only way we can make our hand look strong enough that he may actually even fold a low flush.
Bet/3bet all in if he has a flush, make him call with hands that may check behind like flopped 2 pair/Ax with a spade etc.

Hand 2: $14 pre. Shove flop as default but check/call is fine if you really think he'll bluff with hands that cant call all in.
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Old 12-06-2007, 06:54 PM
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re: hand 1, listen up close because i'm only going to say this once (ha, i lie): POKER IS SO GODDAMN EASY JUST BET WHEN YOU THINK YOU HAVE THE BEST HAND WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU EVER CHECK THIS TURN HALSJKGDHJABEWLJakghbwakje3bhsld you can't even imagine how much it tilts me that you turned the nuts and he turned the 2nd nuts and it got CHECKED THROUGH WTF?Atahweljkhblewjhblkjbkjbdhs
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