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11-28-2007, 11:08 PM
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AKo UTG, BB shortstack shoves
BB wwas 60/13 over 15 hands. I decided to shove as the BB was shortstacked and didn't want anyon e else in the hand. Is this a decent line with AKo UTG at 6 Max?
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Pre-flop: ( 5 players) Hero is UTG with
Hero raises to $0.5, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB raises all-in $2.85, Hero raises all-in $9.2, CO calls.
Flop:  ( $17.55, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $9.55, Sidepot 1: $8)
Turn:  ( $17.55, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $9.55, Sidepot 1: $8)
River:  ( $17.55, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $9.55, Sidepot 1: $8)
Results:
Final pot: $17.55
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11-29-2007, 12:35 AM
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4x the BB is a better opener size than 5x imo. other than that the hand is perfect
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11-29-2007, 12:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by squeezyplayer
4x the BB is a better opener size than 5x imo. other than that the hand is perfect
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Agreed.
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11-29-2007, 02:00 PM
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What are peoples thoughts on calling and then shoving any flop?
IMO a shove preflop doesn't get calls from any worse hands, am I looking at this the wrong way?
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11-29-2007, 02:18 PM
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I think that depends on the CO Dave, if he's LAG then AKo is ahead of the range he shoves PF IMO.
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11-29-2007, 02:22 PM
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AK is streaks ahead of all of their ranges, who the fuck calls there with AA/KK?
Shove after the all in is the correct move, nh
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11-29-2007, 03:02 PM
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No what I'm getting at is if we shove, we will most likely only be called by a better hand. I don't think AQ is calling a 4bet shove in a multiway pot. Does that not make it a bad shove?
I agree with the analysis and would most probably shove but I'm just thinking out loud. A stop n go may get more value from one or more of the CO/BTN/SB callers seeing a flop (and most likely missing).
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11-29-2007, 04:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by davidab157
What are peoples thoughts on calling and then shoving any flop?
IMO a shove preflop doesn't get calls from any worse hands, am I looking at this the wrong way?
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60/13 dosent justify that line because hes seeing a much wider range of hands.
i wouldnt feel comfortable call/shoving in this spot. imo the hand was played perfect
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11-29-2007, 05:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by squeezyplayer
4x the BB is a better opener size than 5x imo. other than that the hand is perfect
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11-29-2007, 05:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by trippedupA-Town
60/13 dosent justify that line because hes seeing a much wider range of hands.
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I'm not worrying about the bb, he's already all in. It's getting value out of the other 3 I was thinking of.
I'm not saying shoving is bad, and I probably do it.
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