KK early, no reads

sb944 · #1 (**permalink**) 10-30-2007, 05:57 PM

Without any reads, I just wanted to get this to showdown without losing my stack to AA. Is that stupid, should I be losing my stack to AA without reads here. 4 bet PF without reads?

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of Poker coaching - Get a free online poker lesson - texas holdem strategy for real poker

Button ($5.60)
SB ($7.60)
BB ($9.50)
UTG ($11)
Hero ($9.85)
CO ($3.25)

Preflop: Hero is MP with

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UTG calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.4, 3 folds, BB raises to $1.35, UTG folds, Hero calls $0.95.

Flop: ($2.85)

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(2 players)
BB bets $1.45, Hero calls $1.45.

Turn: ($5.75)

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($5.75)

(2 players)
BB bets $1.5, Hero calls $1.50.

Final Pot: $8.75

MJPerry · #2 (**permalink**) 10-30-2007, 05:58 PM

Get as much money in the middle PF as possible. Calling PF with KK is never acceptable ever ever ever.

sb944 · #3 (**permalink**) 10-30-2007, 06:08 PM

piv · #4 (**permalink**) 10-30-2007, 07:03 PM

Dont ever worry about losing your stack with KK to AA, it's a cooler. 4bet preflop and get it in on the flop.

sb944 · #5 (**permalink**) 10-30-2007, 07:38 PM

Noted, the same play if I had QQ, or a little more caution?

jharding666 · #6 (**permalink**) 10-30-2007, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MJPerry

Get as much money in the middle PF as possible. Calling PF with KK is never acceptable ever ever ever.

Calling a 3bet with KK is fine, especially if we think our villain has a wide range. Of course we aren't calling to pussy out when we get a gem of a flop like this.

Get the money in as soon as possible post flop (without over betting obv)

KRE8R · #7 (**permalink**) 10-30-2007, 09:36 PM

You gotta shove over the top preflop dude. Otherwise this flop is perfect for a good shove.

sb944 · #8 (**permalink**) 10-30-2007, 09:51 PM

Not happy now, my instincts said shove pre-flop, shove flop, shove turn, shove river.

But two things stopped me:
1. I've been playing a lot of SNG's, where shoving is a standard sized bet most of the time, and was worried my instincts were off
2. First hand (that I played) on Full Tilt, and on UB NL10, re-raises pf are very rare, so for some reason I put him on AA, and couldn't shake that feeling.

Played gay I agree, he had QQ, I won the pot, but basically gave him free cards, where he could have completed his set, and didn't get enough money out of his QQ, which he might have stacked off.

KRE8R · #9 (**permalink**) 10-30-2007, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sb944

and didn't get enough money out of his QQ, which he DEFINITELY WOULD have stacked off.

mhmm.

jharding666 · #10 (**permalink**) 10-31-2007, 05:34 AM

Stop being scared of monsters under the bed