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Old 10-30-2007, 04:59 PM
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SB - 80/20/2 donkey. Absolute fish.
UTG - 19/15/3. Seems relatively solid.

Thoughts on raising this turn instead of the flop?

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UTG ($97)
MP ($64.47)
CO ($58.81)
Hero ($49.25)
SB ($153.71)
BB ($47.25)

Preflop: Hero is Button with , .
UTG raises to $2, 2 folds, Hero calls $2, SB calls $1.75, 1 fold.

Flop: ($6.50) , , (3 players)
SB bets $1.71, UTG calls $1.71, Hero calls $1.71.

Turn: ($11.63) (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $6, Hero raises to $20
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I don't like it. I prefer raising the flop and taking the free card on the turn.
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What triple said.
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I don't like it. I prefer raising the flop and taking the free card on the turn.
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The turn raise is bad because at the moment we have pretty decent equity in the hand and therefore want to see the river.
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Old 10-31-2007, 04:40 AM
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The turn raise is bad because at the moment we have pretty decent equity in the hand and therefore want to see the river.
Well it's not like I'm gonna fold am I? I've put almost half my stack in.

I disagree with not raising the turn. The retard leads on the flop and it's fairly obvious he has nothing (he's a bluffing donk) and the UTG raiser just calls. I can't see him doing that with a monster on that board, he's gonna raise almost every time. I think by just calling I not only get a cheap look at the turn (and there aren't many bad cards that can come) and someone may have a bluff at it where I can pop it up knowing I have decent equity almost regardless of their hand (obv the ace flush draw would fuck me over big time).
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Old 10-31-2007, 05:12 AM
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Well it's not like I'm gonna fold am I? I've put almost half my stack in.

I disagree with not raising the turn. The retard leads on the flop and it's fairly obvious he has nothing (he's a bluffing donk) and the UTG raiser just calls. I can't see him doing that with a monster on that board, he's gonna raise almost every time. I think by just calling I not only get a cheap look at the turn (and there aren't many bad cards that can come) and someone may have a bluff at it where I can pop it up knowing I have decent equity almost regardless of their hand (obv the ace flush draw would fuck me over big time).
So you want to get it in on this turn? Wow! (I am not in any way saying you should fold if shoved on)

I can see UTG calling the flop with a big hand because he can expect a player such as yourself to raise up the donk bet with a pretty wide range.
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Given the line I took, I have to be prepared to get the money in on the turn.

If I was UTG, I would never slowplay that flop, even with a TAG still to act. It's just so draw heavy that he needs to raise it up.
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Given the line I took, I have to be prepared to get the money in on the turn.

If I was UTG, I would never slowplay that flop, even with a TAG still to act. It's just so draw heavy that he needs to raise it up.
What, given the fact you called the flop you have to get it in on the turn?! Are you nuts?!
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What, given the fact you called the flop you have to get it in on the turn?! Are you nuts?!
No, given that I called the flop and raised the turn I have comitted myself.
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No, given that I called the flop and raised the turn I have comitted myself.
I really just don't think you're reading my posts properly *sigh*
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