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10-28-2007, 12:40 AM
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AA on bad board call down, critique
56/7/1.8 over 100
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
saw flop| saw showdown
Hero ($6.43)
SB ($7.44)
BB ($19.81)
UTG ($6.08)
MP ($10.12)
CO ($2.95)
Preflop: Hero is Button with A  , A  .
1 fold, MP calls $0.05, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.25, 1 fold, BB calls $0.20, MP calls $0.20.
Flop: ($0.77) Q , J  , J  (3 players)
BB bets $0.1, MP folds, Hero calls $0.10.
Turn: ($0.97) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $0.1, Hero calls $0.10.
River: ($1.17) 8 (2 players)
BB bets $0.1, Hero calls $0.10.
Final Pot: $1.37 |
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10-28-2007, 12:50 AM
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That bet looks like he either has a Q or is drawing at a straight. I raise the flop and fold to a reraise.
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10-28-2007, 02:18 AM
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FaDi and I talked about this one already. I raise that river for sure. By the third minbet I am putting him on a Q.
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10-28-2007, 07:45 AM
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Raise the flop big time.
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10-28-2007, 08:31 AM
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10-28-2007, 12:25 PM
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If you're scared of the villain or just trying to control the size of the pot then I think raise the flop, check the turn and call the river is a better line here than just call, call, call.
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10-28-2007, 03:25 PM
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I disagree with all of you on this one. At NL5 I can see no reason to raise this flop. In higher level games I agree completely but not here. I seriously think the only thing he did wrong was not raise the river. I call down like this all the time instead of raising on weird boards at these levels and find it more profitable than being aggressive. Understand that I am talking about this particular type of hand though.
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10-28-2007, 03:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KRE8R
I disagree with all of you on this one. At NL5 I can see no reason to raise this flop. In higher level games I agree completely but not here. I seriously think the only thing he did wrong was not raise the river. I call down like this all the time instead of raising on weird boards at these levels and find it more profitable than being aggressive. Understand that I am talking about this particular type of hand though.
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What range do you put him on when he min bets that flop?
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10-28-2007, 03:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by davidab157
What range do you put him on when he min bets that flop?
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I dont know what the guys stats were, but at NL5 people do this for a variety of reasons. I see people do this with a J sometimes here. It is a bit difficult to put him on a particular range but I can relatively confidently put him on a Q or J here. Sometimes they may have an underpair. Thats why IMO at this level a calldown is fine. In this particular situation I couldnt see him minbetting with a J on the river and felt a raise was warranted.
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10-28-2007, 09:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KRE8R
I dont know what the guys stats were, but at NL5 people do this for a variety of reasons. I see people do this with a J sometimes here. It is a bit difficult to put him on a particular range but I can relatively confidently put him on a Q or J here. Sometimes they may have an underpair. Thats why IMO at this level a calldown is fine. In this particular situation I couldnt see him minbetting with a J on the river and felt a raise was warranted.
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Dude I raise this weak lead every single time. You know they do this with 33.
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