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10-17-2007, 11:03 PM
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NL2 6-max KQ vs. Maniac
SB had been picking me apart on this table. He was betting and raising every hand I raised PF. I knew he was bluffing a lot. His stats were 63/15/0.92 (Flop AF was 2, River AF was 3) over 60 hands. Not a large sample, though.
PokerStars No Limit Hold-em, Big Blind is $0.02 (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from triple-t
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saw flop| saw showdown
UTG ($6.56)
MP ($4.66)
Hero ($5.30)
Button ($1.71)
SB ($8.26)
BB ($2.45)
Hero is CO with  .
Pre-Flop:
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.08, 1 folds, SB raises to $0.14, 1 folds, Hero calls.
Once again, standard PF raise on the button with KQ. SB min-raised it and I called. Should I have 4-bet this knowing he could have a very wide range?
Flop: (Pot=$0.30) (2 players)
SB bets $0.20, Hero calls.
I really don't know what to make of this flop. It surely didn't hit him (Though A2 is def in his range). I decided to call this bet fully intending to try to take the pot away on the turn.
Turn: (Pot=$0.70) (2 players)
SB bets $0.42, Hero raises to $1, SB calls.
Turn isn't exactly a blank, but it is disconnected from the rest of the board and def could have hit my raise-call-call range. It also could have hit his range. Anyway, I tried to take it away with the smallest raise I thought would do the trick.
River: (Pot=$2.70) (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.
After all the action so far, there's no way I can bet this now. His turn call told me the Jack hit him. Time to check down my nut high-card hand.
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10-18-2007, 12:04 AM
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Triple I think you are seriously overthinking these NL2 hands. Just play good cards and dont bluff. You will make so much money that way at this level.
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10-18-2007, 12:12 AM
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if you want to keep playing your hand then raised that flop bet, if he calls then go check/fold on turn and river
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10-18-2007, 04:13 AM
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Mike McDermott
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Quote:
Originally Posted by triple-t
Should I have 4-bet this knowing he could have a very wide range?
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Never 4bet without a monster at these stakes.
I prefer raising the turn to the flop here but if you're going to raise the turn then please raise it bigger.
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10-18-2007, 08:33 AM
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i rerasise preflop nearly everytime here ( i just cant let someone run over me) but the flop is 100% a fold or raise decision the call gave u no information.. so raise if you have balls and fold if not ( but on this level be a nit like kre8er says )
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10-18-2007, 08:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jharding666
Never 4bet without a monster at these stakes.
I prefer raising the turn to the flop here but if you're going to raise the turn then please raise it bigger.
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I raised to $1 figuring he'd give up if I had him beat. I can see ace high calling that raise, but do we see Q high or T high calling?
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10-18-2007, 09:17 AM
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Mike McDermott
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Quote:
Originally Posted by triple-t
I raised to $1 figuring he'd give up if I had him beat. I can see ace high calling that raise, but do we see Q high or T high calling?
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Why raise to fold out worse hands?
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10-18-2007, 04:13 PM
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Agree with jharding.
At these stakes just don't bother thinking about 4betting light. You probably don't need to ever do it until 100nl tbh. If the villain doesn't have a fold button, there's no point in doing it.
I think calling flop with intention of raising the turn is fine, but again it comes down to whether this guy folds. That play is meant to fold out his sub J pairs and AK, but alot at these levels won't fold it. If you haven't seen him make laydowns like that, just fold turn. And yeah, if you raise it has to be bigger, $1.35 at least imo.
As played just check down.
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10-18-2007, 05:12 PM
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NL2 people seldom reraise PF without a pocket pair. Knowing this there is no way they are folding the flop to a reraise, though.
Yeah just don't bluff in NL2. People bad calls so often.
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10-18-2007, 05:14 PM
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When playing against poor players it is almost completely unnecessary to bluff since just playing solid cards will provide you with enough of an edge to make a very good profit.
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