Villain just bluffed me off a decent pot when i had TPTK - he showed 27o This was a spite call, but i think the rest of the hand is OK. I just downloaded some guy's video off 2+2 and wanted to test out something i saw in the video. I have toned down my aggression a bit as it has been getting me into trouble.......

I showed no strength on the flop, then bet the turn so it probably looked like a steal to him. His raise was lame so i happily called., The river made a flush possible but his overbet clearly looked like a river bluff - why would he bet so much if he wanted me to call?

Is my line OK? (Ignoring the preflop spite call, although i don't think its that bad against a loose opponent)






Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

CO ($17.10)
Button ($24.65)
SB ($29.47)
Hero ($34.93)
UTG ($27.53)
MP ($44.04)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, J.
UTG raises to $1, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2.10) 4, 6, J (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks.

Turn: ($2.10) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $2, UTG raises to $5.5, Hero calls $3.50.

River: ($13.10) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $10, Hero calls $10.

Final Pot: $33.10

Results in white below:
Hero has Qd Jd (one pair, jacks).
UTG has 9d Ad (high card, ace).
Outcome: Hero wins $33.10.

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preflop call isnt bad against a LAG. i lead out on this flop though....turn looks pretty standard. river would scare me since he raised when the 2nd club came, but if he makes this play often its an obvious call


btw, calling out of spite soooo -ev


EDIT: i dont play cash so you may not want to listen to anything i say

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pf is ok I guess if he's loose. But calling just because he bluffed you last hand isn't good. Unless I have a good read that he is constantly loose then folding is good imo.

As played if he's really LAG I'd check-call the flop cos we don't really wanna be bluff 3bet if we c/r. Leading out I'm not a fan of if he's loose, we don't wanna let him get away from a bluff.

As played bet/call on the turn is good, assuming he bluffs alot. If this was a standard TAG then I'd bet/fold.

As played, I think his line is most often a bluff. I think he bets the flop with a better J/QQ+ and a check behind on the river would seem more sensible. It's also a very good scare card for him to bluff at, which makes me more likely to call. Again against a TAG I'm check-folding but if this guy gets out of line alot, it's a call for me.

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River's not an overbet by the way. $10 into $13 is what I would bet here with a flush.
You could argue the reason for calling here is that his range is polarised to either a flush/the straight or a total bluff as he would be happy to check down a hand like KK/2 pair here once the board gets so scary. However if he is a donkish LAG player and you have checked to him I am not sure this is true

I am not saying I would fold just that the only reasoning for not folding is I have top pair against a bluffer.

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Just to clarify, he was a donkish LAG player. I had him at 45\20 over about 50 hands.

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Ok, 50 hands is nothing really so we can't be too sure he's always that donkish. But even still, given those stats, I think a call is definitely +ev here.

Wota, I was (honestly) actually going to say in my post before that his range is polarised to a monster or air and so if you call with JJ you should call with Jx as well (and probably worse).

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Think the hand is played ok, but i think you should bet the flop. Against a LAG though letting him bluff off chips is fine. The flush is unlikely since he would have probably only called on the turn. River is the right play. Your not getting called by less, but can induce a bluff.

QJ diamonds..not really a spite call. Dont make it personal since this can get ugly and youll end up donking chips off.

Yeah I think that is true here for a TAG/scared player but in a short handed game I see Super LAGs keep firing with sets/2 pairs and no fear in these spots (and rightfully so as they often get called by worse, as this HH proves).

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Not a lot to add on what's already been said, just wanted to re emphasise:

Do not lead at this flop

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