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Old 09-18-2007, 05:37 AM
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Button is extremely loose, stats are 86/12/3. MP is relatively unknown having only seen about 3 hands but hasnt played those 3 well hence the short stack.

With the threat of the flush which the button is obviously chasing is this still an easy call/allin? What about the MP, what do we think he has?

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MP ($.42)
Button ($4.88)
SB ($1.33)
Hero ($2)
UTG ($1.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
1 fold, MP calls $0.02, Button calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.07) , , (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, Button bets $0.07, Hero raises to $0.28, MP raises to $0.4 (All-In), Button raises to $1.55, Hero raises to $1.98 (All-In), Button calls $0.43.

Turn: ($4.43) (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($4.43) (3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $4.43
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Old 09-18-2007, 05:44 AM
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If you are sure he's chasing the FD, then it's a good all-in. The only FD you are afraid of is and it is less likely since he didn't raise PF.

What MP has is irrelevant. His stack is so small that the main pot is insignificant compared to the side pot. But I'd put him on A3, A8, 88, or 33 and he won the main pot.
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Results in white below:
Button has 7h 4h (high card, ace).
Hero has 8c Kd (two pair, kings and eights).
MP has Kh 6d (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Hero wins $4.43.


It ended up being all me, I wasnt really worried about the MP either which is why I shoved. If the stacks were the other way round I would have been more wary and close to folding.
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Old 09-18-2007, 06:02 AM
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Oh wait, this was NL2. I'd put MP's range as ATC.

But seriously, once a player is all-in, it's no longer important what he has because he cannot win anymore of the money we put in.
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Old 09-18-2007, 06:06 AM
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Now for my biggest loss of the night. I think I played this fairly badly to be honest. My flop raise should have been bigger although the pot was only small at the time. And given this villian the flush should have screamed at me dont call this.

In fact it was but I called anyway and it turned out he had a better two pair which turned into the flush. I think this might be a leak in my game when facing extremely loose players like this guy. I almost get to the point where I refuse to believe he can ever have a hand.

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UTG ($.21)
MP ($1.06)
Button ($5.19)
Hero ($5.25)
BB ($1.65)

Preflop: Hero is SB with , .
UTG calls $0.02, MP calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.08) , , (4 players)
Hero bets $0.08, BB folds, UTG folds, MP calls $0.08.

Turn: ($0.24) (2 players)
Hero bets $0.24, MP raises to $0.96 (All-In), Hero calls $0.72.

River: ($2.16) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $2.16

Results in white below:
Hero has Tc 8d (two pair, tens and eights).
MP has Ts Kc (flush, king high).
Outcome: MP wins $2.16.
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Old 09-18-2007, 06:11 AM
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Should have posted that hand as a different thread, but I'll give my opinions anyway.

I'd actually bet a little less on the flop. I'm thinking 6 cents looks about right. You want him to call that bet because he made a mistake if he does.

On the turn, I'm now betting between 0.12 and 0.18. I'm mucking to a strong reraise like his shove, but a normal reraise (up to 0.48) I'd have to call because too many of these donks think TP is the nuts.
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hand 1 is good

hand 2, i bet more like 18c on the turn, and fold to the raise
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