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Old 09-17-2007, 09:15 PM
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8 players, each about $100.
Blind is $1/2.
I was the big blind with 3c 5c.
Some folded and some called/checked. Pot ~$10.

Flop came: 2c 4h 6d
I bet $5. All folded to a late-position guy (just right to dealer), who called.

Turn came: 2d
(pot $20)
I checked. Opponent bet $10. I re-raised $20. Opponent re-raised all in. I called.

So how do you think so far? Is there anything I could have improved? Thanks.
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Old 09-18-2007, 12:40 AM
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Please don't check minraise. As soon as someone does that at one of my tables they are officially a donk and get a nice green dot above their name.

I'd bet that turn, you have to protect against the draws. $15 seems a good number.
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check-minraising with a big hand is teh gay. Reraise to $40 and call a shove there.
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Hm... I checked because I wish to see how the pair of 2 is affecting his hand. Right after the Turn 2 is dealt, I see him preparing to bet (there is an online tell thing in the software, you can see their chips moving) even if it wasn't his turn yet.

Now he raises only $10, so I put him on two pairs. If he hits a full house he probably won't bet. If he has two pairs I want to milk him without scaring him away, to see the river.

He had 2K. He probably think he must have the best hand, so he went all-in.

So I had him dominated 3:1 in the all-in.
Unfortunately, he hit one of the 10 magical cards (4) on river so I lost everything.

If I keep betting on turn he probably will call. Let's say this is the case and the river 4 came. What should I do here? Thanks.

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Please don't check minraise. As soon as someone does that at one of my tables they are officially a donk and get a nice green dot above their name.
Please explain why check mini-raise isn't good. thanks.
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Old 09-18-2007, 07:10 AM
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Hm... I checked because I wish to see how the pair of 2 is affecting his hand. Right after the Turn 2 is dealt, I see him preparing to bet (there is an online tell thing in the software, you can see their chips moving) even if it wasn't his turn yet.
I wouldn't even play on a site with these "tells". And I wouldn't put too much stock in them either because they can easily be manipulated.
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Now he raises only $10, so I put him on two pairs. If he hits a full house he probably won't bet. If he has two pairs I want to milk him without scaring him away, to see the river.
I wouldn't just put him on 2 pair. He could have made trips with the 2. Anyway, you are ahead here and he's probably drawing slim. There was no reason not to bet this turn.
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He had 2K. He probably think he must have the best hand, so he went all-in.

So I had him dominated 3:1 in the all-in.
Unfortunately, he hit one of the 10 magical cards (4) on river so I lost everything.

If I keep betting on turn he probably will call. Let's say this is the case and the river 4 came. What should I do here? Thanks.
He actually had 11 outs. (3-4s, 3-6s, 3-kickers, 2-2s) Well, go with your read. You thought he had 2 pair, I think 2 pair or trips is a better range. The double pairing of the board makes me want to check-fold.
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Please explain why check mini-raise isn't good. thanks.
Oh baby, I've been waiting for this moment!

I will post when I'm home from work and can rant about the gheyness of the check minraise.
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We will all be eagerly awaiting, David.
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Oh baby, I've been waiting for this moment!

I will post when I'm home from work and can rant about the gheyness of the check minraise.
Thanks a lot. That would really help.
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