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09-16-2007, 05:54 PM
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$200NL QQ as overpair - thoughts on my play
Villain is somewhat loose and in my belief very donkish.
Also what is our default line here with the QQ on this type of flop?
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Stack sizes:
Wota: $277.85
CO: $174.10
Button: $197.00
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BB: $431.40
Pre-flop: ( 5 players) Wota is UTG with
Wota raises to $8, CO calls, 3 folds.
Flop:  ( $19, 2 players)
Wota bets $15, CO raises to $30, Wota calls.
Turn:  ( $79, 2 players)
Wota checks, CO is all-in $136.1, Wota calls.
River:  ( $351.2, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $351.2)
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09-16-2007, 06:41 PM
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3 bet the flop. He's probably raising with a FD or a J. By check calling you are giving him the turn cheap. The turn is a 7. This is unlikely to have changed much 10 8 is doubtful. If u called flop u thought your QQ was good, right? So i would bet big here. FD is going to pay to hit andif he wants to call with AJ, well there's just a limit to what u can do. What did they have on both the hands you wrote about?
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09-16-2007, 06:43 PM
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I'm 3 betting flop because his reraise was so weak and you're getting paid off here by AJ most of the time you're just begging him to chase when you just call that.
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09-16-2007, 06:46 PM
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No way I am posting results until I have alot of replies, the results are irrelevant anyway.
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09-16-2007, 07:28 PM
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I kinda like getting it in on the flop too. Definitely a 3 bet.
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09-16-2007, 10:51 PM
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pop that shit to like 111 on the flop
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09-17-2007, 03:05 AM
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By "somewhat loose" do you mean he's aggro and bluffs alot or he'll call with complete air? If he's a caller then it's the easiest flop 3bet ever imo. If he's a crazy bluffer I don't mind a call and c/r (or call a shove in this case) on the turn too much.
My default play is to 3bet the potsize but it's good to mix in a call with a big hand every now and again.
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09-18-2007, 11:48 PM
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My guess... you opponent had AJ and took your pot.
When CO reraise $30 I would re-raise him about $90.
Now if CO calls, I will push all in on Turn as long as there is no K or A.
But if CO re-raise all in I will fold. He probably have me beat (KK, AA, flopped two pair or better).
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09-19-2007, 05:27 AM
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He had 77. If he had AJ I wouldn't be posting.
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09-19-2007, 05:42 AM
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AKc or 108 would have been my guess..a RR post flop in hopes of seeing a free (aka cheaper) turn
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