PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|saw showdown

UTG ($13.30)
MP ($16.15)
CO ($9.10)
Button ($6.25)
SB ($8.15)
Hero ($9.55)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
3 folds, Button calls $0.10, SB completes, Hero raises to $0.6, Button raises to $1.1, SB folds, Hero raises to $9.55, Button calls $5.15 (All-In).

Flop: ($15.90) , , (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($15.90) (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($15.90) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $15.90

Results in white below:
Hero has Jd Jc (one pair, jacks).
Button has Kc Ks (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Button wins $12.60. Hero wins $3.30.

Villian was a complete tard at 70/20 and continually limped in LP/OTB, 6bb was to punish him/invoke a raise and I got what I wanted. Shoving is g00t right?

I'm not a master on this, but JJ seems one card two low for an all in, and I think it's seen more as a medium pair rather than a high pair. AA/KK/QQ have you beat, AK, AQ, KQ will beat you quite often and even Ax or Kx will knock you out fairly often, although wouldn't be calling such a big allin usually.

there is a HUGE difference between 4betting/push and just 4 betting, im not to crazy about putting him regardless of his stats with pocket jacks.

4 bet it and if he plays back fold, but dont 4 bet push it, especially when reraise was only1.10

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AsuitedKing: justify the call
EhRa: he hits his set und waited that i hitz something and he dindt play he only goes allin
EhRa: tahts a big donk ... so ****

Even if this guy is a turd donk he's not calling you with cards less then a jack, you're even 50/50 vs QK here.

Tripped, he's half stacked. Had he 3bet me properly or raised pf in the first place any significant proper 4bet would have him effectively all in anyway.

I am just calling his reraise preflop no matter what his stats are and hoping for a J on the flop. With that Ace coming out I am check folding.

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Please tell me this is a joke. 4bet to $3 and fold with 3-1 odds if he pushes all in for $6?

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if hes pushing a 4bet??? IM FOLDING THE HAND. i dont care how priced in i am and if hes half stacked blah blah blah. its a fold.
that isnt even the point, 4betting pocket jacks is highly donkish and should never be considered in the first place. and whats 70/20 over how many hands?
that isnt the point, the point is, i have saved a butt load of cash folding these very marginal hands PF to a 3bet, and yes even maniacs, because i dont see alot of fish 3 betting light against me to steal the pot. but hey, i dont always follow the "i am to priced to fold" method and it has worked out for me just peachy.

so agree to disagree wota

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AsuitedKing: justify the call
EhRa: he hits his set und waited that i hitz something and he dindt play he only goes allin
EhRa: tahts a big donk ... so ****

lol you donk... if you cut his 4bet range down to only AA/KK/AK you're a 1:1.5 underdog but you're getting 3:1 to call? Are you stupid?

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.081% 39.87% 00.21% 114702624 596634.00 { JJ }
Hand 1: 59.919% 59.71% 00.21% 171771180 596634.00 { KK+, AKs, AKo }

yes yes yes piv im a donk who pwns 1-2 on a consistent basis because i know when to laydown to a 3 bet even though the math dictates a call.
but youll play enough one day where you can see this pattern happen enough and fold the hand. i dont play purely by math or by a feel, because i see plenty of players out there with their calculators getting creamed, and the same applies to people who dont crunch some numbers. im not trying to start a fight, but i dont appreciate you calling me a moron when all i gave you was my opinion on that hand. apparently we have different opinions on it fellas but dont be asses about it.

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AsuitedKing: justify the call
EhRa: he hits his set und waited that i hitz something and he dindt play he only goes allin
EhRa: tahts a big donk ... so ****