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09-09-2007, 07:39 PM
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Stu Ungar
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NL10 AK
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (4 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com
saw flop| saw showdown
UTG ($6)
Hero ($11.90)
SB ($23.60)
BB ($10.10)
Preflop: Hero is Button with  ,  .
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.4, SB raises to $1.4, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.
Flop: ($2.90)  ,  , (2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero raises to $6, SB raises to $22.2, Hero calls $4.50 (All-In).
Turn: ($35.60) (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: ($35.60) (2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $35.60
Results in white below:
Hero has Ah Kh (one pair, aces).
SB has 7s 7h (three of a kind, sevens).
Outcome: SB wins $35.60.
Hadn't seen villian 3bet before, running 30/20 kinda of stats. Put him on AK, figured AA would be a cooler. Ok to stack off with TPTK here or fold to 3bet on flop?
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09-09-2007, 08:23 PM
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Another raise preflop would have forced him to fold, but it's risky with AKs and not knowing how strong his hand really is. Is that what others would have done?
Post flop he played it perfectly, probably assuming you had AK or AQ due to your PF call, wanting you to raise over the top.
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09-09-2007, 08:52 PM
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Stu Ungar
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Interested in my play not his.
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09-09-2007, 08:58 PM
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His reraise preflop with 77 is interesting. He is very aggressive though so not impossible that he has something weaker. His reraise all in on flop is scary. I would tend to think he made a set no matter what. Hard to see him going totally broke here with AK and if he does have AK you are only splitting the pot. I may fold to that RRAI.
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09-09-2007, 09:05 PM
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Stu Ungar
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KRE8R
His reraise preflop with 77 is interesting. He is very aggressive though so not impossible that he has something weaker. His reraise all in on flop is scary. I would tend to think he made a set no matter what. Hard to see him going totally broke here with AK and if he does have AK you are only splitting the pot. I may fold to that RRAI.
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My thoughts exactly. Since I hadn't seen him repop me I kinda tightened his range to exclude 77 and 33. If his has AA it's a cooler. This is just the bog standard line for him to take with AK. I basically expected him to shove and I just snap called, didn't realise it was $4.50 to call. Not sure if I can/want to get away from the hand here.
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09-09-2007, 09:23 PM
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Come on guys it is 4 handed with 100bb stacks.
AKs = nuts preflop
TPTK = nuts on flop
If you are even considering folding to his 3bet then flat call flop. Driest board ever and I would probably flat call to get value from Ax later/let him bluff whilst accepting I am stacking off to a set either way.
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09-09-2007, 09:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KRE8R
His reraise preflop with 77 is interesting. He is very aggressive though so not impossible that he has something weaker. His reraise all in on flop is scary. I would tend to think he made a set no matter what. Hard to see him going totally broke here with AK and if he does have AK you are only splitting the pot. I may fold to that RRAI.
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Then don't call preflop and dont raise flop. You are getting over 4-1 to call with TPTK, folding to the all in as played would be terrible. Guy plays AQ/AJ the same. If you always fear sets in 3bet pots 4 handed you will fold many many winning hands.
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09-09-2007, 10:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WotaWaster
Then don't call preflop and dont raise flop. You are getting over 4-1 to call with TPTK, folding to the all in as played would be terrible. Guy plays AQ/AJ the same. If you always fear sets in 3bet pots 4 handed you will fold many many winning hands.
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You really think he plays AQ/AJ the same way? Hmmmm....
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09-09-2007, 10:55 PM
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Stu Ungar
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KRE8R
You really think he plays AQ/AJ the same way? Hmmmm....
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50/50 I think... I probably c/r to get value from JJ,QQ,KK since they're folding to a lead.
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09-10-2007, 04:40 AM
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I like to 4bet AK pf here.
As played I'm calling his flop lead and going for the raise on the turn.
As played you can't fold to his 3bet, that's just suicidal.
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