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Old 09-07-2007, 07:50 AM
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Default 50nl JJ in SB with UTG 4bet

Villain is 36/24/2.5 over 80 hands. It's datamined so I haven't actually seen any hands and have no other reads on him, no idea whether he's been getting out of line or just hitting some cards.

The vpip : pfr ratio suggests he's a reasonable player and considering he's UTG I struggle to see him 4betting worse than TT/AK.

Am I right to just semi-ignore the stats I have and muck this and save myself the trouble of calling OOP and seeing a 268r flop before banging my head off the table?

The 4bet was small, kinda suspicious I thought.

What do you guys reckon? Is folding nitty/donkish/inspired?


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Preflop: Hero is SB with , .
UTG raises to $1.75, 3 folds, Hero raises to $6.25, 1 fold, UTG raises to $14.75, Hero folds
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I really think he's just using his stack to tell you to fuck off and not reraise him but i think a fold is fine here
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I'd never 5bet shove anything other than AA/KK against an UTG 4 bettor.

Considering we have $6 invested, we kind of have the implied odds to set mine but we HAVE to fold ANY flop without a jack.

I don't think a fold is too nittish.
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i fold but im a nit
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don't you mean 3bet????










































lollllll, aren't i funny? anyway, this is an easy fold
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ez fold

and no... there isn't set value either
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If the guy was 36/24/2.5 over 2k hands and I'd seen him raise a wide range UTG and occasionally get tricky and 4bet some light-ish hands, what's the play then?
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Call and stack of on a non A/K flop if over 2k hands he has those stats and you have that read.
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and no... there isn't set value either
Calling 8.50 to potentially win $90+ seems like good enough odds to me.

I still prefer a fold though.
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