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09-05-2007, 02:29 PM
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50nl OESD w/ pp multiway raised pot
CO is 30/10/7 **only 100 hands**
MP is 39/13/2
I've confused myself about this hand. What's the play on the flop here?
Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com
UTG ($46.75)
MP ($21.85)
CO ($59.05)
Button ($29.25)
Hero ($63.35)
BB ($72.45)
Preflop: Hero is SB with  ,  .
1 fold, MP calls $0.50, CO raises to $2.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $2, 1 fold, MP calls $1.75.
Flop: ($7.25)  ,  , (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $4.75, CO raises to $9.5, Hero ???
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Last edited by davidab157; 09-05-2007 at 02:36 PM.
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09-05-2007, 02:34 PM
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CO has an overpair?
I'm not actually asking, that's just my fishy thinking. I'm probably wrong.
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09-05-2007, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MJPerry
CO has an overpair?
I'm not actually asking, that's just my fishy thinking. I'm probably wrong.
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So are you folding, calling or raising?
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09-05-2007, 03:40 PM
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I'm probably folding. But I'm sure I'll get people telling me that's wrong. Two overcards and scary CO would frighten me.
Last edited by MJPerry; 09-05-2007 at 03:43 PM.
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09-05-2007, 03:44 PM
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I don't think u can call here. What if MP then goes all in. What if u miss your str8 on the turn. OOP i would either push or fold. Personally i would fold, since i am almost certain im not winning and dont want to chase an open ender for most of my money.
Possibly you are deep enough for a call, but since it's a one card str8 do u think youll get paid. Also is CO or MP capable of mucking AA KK in this spot. If they are then maybe u should shove.
Personally i would fold, but i dont pretend to be a great player. Othes may tell you different.
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09-05-2007, 03:44 PM
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I'm scared to offer my opinion.
Nah, in truth I dunno. Plus I don't know what the x/x/x stats mean (I keep meaning to Google it, but I'm a lazy fuck).
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No-ones going to flame you. I'm posting it cos I didn't know what to do either. I don't think it's straightforward at all.
Stats are VPIP/PFR/AF
VPIP - % $ voluntarily put in pot (how many hands he plays preflop)
PFR - % of hands he raises preflop
AF - postflop aggression factor (ratio of bets/raises:calls)
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09-05-2007, 03:45 PM
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but i dont pretend to be a great player
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Shame project got banned, he'd know what to do. 
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09-05-2007, 04:08 PM
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No-ones going to flame you. I'm posting it cos I didn't know what to do either. I don't think it's straightforward at all.
Stats are VPIP/PFR/AF
VPIP - % $ voluntarily put in pot (how many hands he plays preflop)
PFR - % of hands he raises preflop
AF - postflop aggression factor (ratio of bets/raises:calls)
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Yeah, I know I won't get flamed. I worded my OP quite badly, that's why I edited it. It's too late to express thoughts coherently.
Now I finally know what those freakin' numbers mean (ty btw) I dunno about folding. CO is super-aggro but his VPIP could be a lot higher, I could see him maybe holding A8 or A7 here? Or he could be holding a big Ace and missed, or just be bluffing 'cos he's got position. I think I'm inclined to just call here and if MP goes all-in then we've only put approx. 15% of our stack in so we're hardly committed. Yeah, I'm putting CO on a range of A5+ or 55+. If he's gonna be aggressive to the river implied odds are big enough to make the straight, no? And as for MP, he didn't raise PF then only bet after a check so he might have just been taking a stab at it.
Yeah, I'm just gonna call here, try to make a straight and felt the aggro. CO.
I'm check/folding turn if it's a blank obvs.
Last edited by MJPerry; 09-05-2007 at 04:17 PM.
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09-05-2007, 04:11 PM
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Am I the only one thinking MP is just adding dead money to the pot and it's CO we should be worrying about more than anything?
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09-05-2007, 04:14 PM
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Quote:
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Am I the only one thinking MP is just adding dead money to the pot and it's CO we should be worrying about more than anything?
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Nope.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MJPerry
I'm putting CO on a range of A5+ or 55+. ... And as for MP, he didn't raise PF then only bet after a check so he might have just been taking a stab at it.
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