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Old 09-05-2007, 01:12 PM
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Default 50nl Yet more double-barrellage

OK most of you hated my last double barrel (even though it was turn and river, not flop and turn, but whatever). Thoughts on this one?

Villain is 30/8/2 or something like that over 400ish hands.

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UTG ($51)
MP ($69.75)
Hero ($51.25)
Button ($96.70)
SB ($12.80)
BB ($60.50)

Preflop: Hero is CO with , .
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.75, 3 folds, UTG calls $2.25, MP folds.

Flop: ($6.75) , , (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $4.25, UTG calls $4.25.

Turn: ($15.25) (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $11
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I'm gonna guess UTG either completed his straight draw with A9/99 or hit his J.

His check-call scares me a little when coupled with the J, seems like he wanted a card for free.

You know what, ignore me. I don't think we can possibly check behind on the turn, it looks superweak.

Maybe bet a little more on the flop? $5.50?

I just reread this post and it's so full of contrasting statements it's untrue. I'm saying we're beat on the turn (possibly by the nuts) then telling you not to check it. I think I just write down thoughts as they come with no reasoning.

I'm following two trains of thought:

#1- If we're continuing to bluff at this pot, checking the turn behind looks really weak so bet.
#2- The J is far too scary, and coupled with the check-call on a drawy flop I think we're beaten. He's gonna check-raise you here, right?

Fuck it. Check behind, hit a 7 on the river then go broke when he calls you with 99.
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very easy c/f on turn and river

Didn't wota tell you that your biggest leak is double barreling too much? I really think you should listen to him, he's the man
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very easy c/f on turn and river

Didn't wota tell you that your biggest leak is double barreling too much? I really think you should listen to him, he's the man
Yes he did. While alot of posts recently have been me double barrelling, these are every single time I've been doing it, so like once or twice a session.

I'm double barrelling scare cards against opponents who aren't playing middle pair like it's the nuts, right? A scare card would be an A or K or something that completes a straight draw, and maybe a flush card if I don't think he's flush drawing.

In this case, the J is a big scare card imo. The guys not a great player but he isn't a station either and he finds it very hard to continue with this hand without a 9 or a set. I can't see him calling with a Q here and 2 pair probably mucks as well.

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only a donkey would have a nine here. your up vs other cards way more often IMO. I think only a strong queen or a 9 could stand a turn bet. That said, this board has a huge range for calling; Q, T, J , flush draws, strait draws, could all come along for the rude, so I dont really like bluffing here.

But i wouldnt say you cant bluff. If you opponent is not loose passive, or tight passive, you can bet here +EV imo. But usually they are sucky, so you might not wanan bluff. vs a grinder this would be a good spot IMO.

In generall i double on ragged flops alot more than i do on coordinated ones, mainly b/c ppl float you more often on ragged ones (where as on coordinated ones like this, they have a hand a higher % of time)
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Yes he did. While alot of posts recently have been me double barrelling, these are every single time I've been doing it, so like once or twice a session.

I'm double barrelling scare cards against opponents who aren't playing middle pair like it's the nuts, right? A scare card would be an A or K or something that completes a straight draw, and maybe a flush card if I don't think he's flush drawing.

In this case, the J is a big scare card imo. The guys not a great player but he isn't a station either and he finds it very hard to continue with this hand without a 9 or a set. I can't see him calling with a Q here and 2 pair probably mucks as well.

Is that reasoning bad jharding?
First off I somehow managed to miss the fact that that J hit AK incredibly hard! This makes the double barrel much more appealing.

I don't see him necessarily folding 2 pair on the turn (provided its QJ/QT) although OOP and not having taken the lead PF it would be pretty weak of him to stick around.
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