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Old 08-31-2007, 02:33 PM
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Default 100nl KK facing c/r

In river rats (so guess what he had, lol) but thought I'd get some advice on the hand in general.

Villain is 28/25/8 but it's only 50 hands, so don't take them too seriously.

General thoughts on this line please?

By calling do I get more value out of AQ/KQ/AJ/KT/9T etc. or should I just be going broke on the flop?

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saw flop|saw showdown

UTG ($44.85)
MP ($66.10)
Hero ($98.50)
Button ($87.10)
SB ($56.05)
BB ($157.95)

Preflop: Hero is CO with , .
2 folds, Hero raises to $3.5, 1 fold, SB calls $3, BB calls $2.50.

Flop: ($10.50) , , (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $7.25, SB folds, BB raises to $19, Hero calls $11.75.

Turn: ($48.50) (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $37, BB raises to $135.45 (All-In), Hero calls $39 (All-In).

River: ($259.95) (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $259.95
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Hmm... those stats look very different to when we were discussing the hand on aim earlier.

For those not in that conversation, the jist of what I said was fold or 3 bet the flop. It is not a very nice board for our Aces and there are a lot of terrible turn cards so calling doesn't achieve a lot.

When he checks the turn I definitely lead for $35-40, I like your bet sizing here.
When he shoves the turn we know we are behind.
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LOL just realised it was AA not KK as I say in the title.
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Hmm... those stats look very different to when we were discussing the hand on aim earlier.
What did I say they were?

I took the stats off PT, maybe they were the stats when he left the table and not the stats at the time.
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What did I say they were?

I took the stats off PT, maybe they were the stats when he left the table and not the stats at the time.
You told me he had a much lower AF which was why I said to you he's very unlikely to be betting a draw, especially on a rainbow flop.
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You told me he had a much lower AF which was why I said to you he's very unlikely to be betting a draw, especially on a rainbow flop.
Ah I remember now. At the time he had an AF of infinity. Basically the stats mean very very little, he's an unknown.
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I think I am definitely checking the turn. Not so sure about the rest.
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I think I am definitely checking the turn. Not so sure about the rest.
This defeats the object of calling the flop (unless david's intention was to try and get a cheap showdown). I believe I'm right in saying he thought he had the best hand and wanted him to fire another bullet before raising the turn. We have already effectively given one free card so if we feel we are ahead we can't give another.
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This defeats the object of calling the flop (unless david's intention was to try and get a cheap showdown). I believe I'm right in saying he thought he had the best hand and wanted him to fire another bullet before raising the turn.
Bingo.

I believe my exact thought process was "ZOMG I'm going broke, but I want to be tricky and call cos I didn't do that last time and lost but this time I shall rule supreme, bet bet bet, bah he checked, weeeeeee I can't get my money in the middle quick enough".
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Grooaaannnn.....but the river could be an Ace.....



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