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05-08-2007, 09:48 AM
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NL25 straight gets massive overbet
I'm pretty sure I made the right play but I'll post anyway to make sure. Villain is a bit of a donkey (seriously they are everywhere at UB, if you don't mind the variance get down there now) with stats of 60/33/1.47. I've been fairly tight, taken down a few decent pots without showing, but I really don't think he's the type of player to pay attention.
I'm not worried about SB here, but for the record the stats were 40/16/1.2
Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.25 BB (4 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com
saw flop| saw showdown
Hero ($37.42)
UTG ($23.19)
Button ($37.51)
SB ($36.01)
Preflop: Hero is BB with  ,  .
1 fold, Button calls $0.25, SB completes, Hero checks.
Flop: ($0.75)  ,  , (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button checks.
Turn: ($0.75) (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button checks.
River: ($0.75) (3 players)
SB bets $0.45, Hero raises to $2.1, Button raises to $37.26 (All-In), SB folds, Hero ???
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05-08-2007, 10:01 AM
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Well, I doubt anyone is stupid enough to make a 15x 3bet with a fullhouse unless they KNOW you've got the nut straight.
I call this ALL day. You've got a well-hidden nut straight, there is no flush, It's unlikely anyone filled up. I say you're against 2 pair, trip 3's, or a the low end straight: A2.
MAYBE even AA. 
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05-08-2007, 10:25 AM
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For some reason this bet screams quad 3s. Other than that you say he is a donkey, but even so I think the only two hands you can beat are trip 3s and A2. It is unlikely to be a bluff and it really looks like he was slow-playing the hell out of something. AA is kinda possible if he is a complete donkey, but I think it would have to be his first time ever with AA for him to play it like this. My money is on 33 or 44, but he would play 67 or A2 the same way, leaving you in a tough spot.
You played it perfectly, no reason for you to not raise the river. Looking at it now I fold to his re-raise, if I was actually at the table I would probably have called.
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05-08-2007, 01:03 PM
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Mike McDermott
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Originally Posted by SeanyBullets1
I call this ALL day. You've got a well-hidden nut straight,
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Thats a 2nd nut straight seany
Considering how much money it is to call in to the pot I wouldn't say folding is a bad move but I think I still make the call. With his stats aren't we expecting him to raise all pp's PF from the button? I'd say 34 is more likely than 33 or 44.
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05-08-2007, 01:22 PM
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Mike McDermott
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Originally Posted by jharding666
Thats a 2nd nut straight seany
Considering how much money it is to call in to the pot I wouldn't say folding is a bad move but I think I still make the call. With his stats aren't we expecting him to raise all pp's PF from the button? I'd say 34 is more likely than 33 or 44.
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05-08-2007, 04:04 PM
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I have to say I'm quite surprised that people are calling here. For 1.5 buyins with even pot odds, surely there's no way I'm ahead enough here?
Personally, I reckon he had something like 34 but what do I know.... 
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05-08-2007, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by davidab157
I have to say I'm quite surprised that people are calling here. For 1.5 buyins with even pot odds, surely there's no way I'm ahead enough here?
Personally, I reckon he had something like 34 but what do I know.... 
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I said 34 therefore you are right 
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05-08-2007, 04:19 PM
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FOLD!
His AF is 1.2 with a VPIP of 40. He's a caller, not a bettor.
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05-08-2007, 05:43 PM
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Well, I doubt anyone is stupid enough to make a 15x 3bet with a fullhouse unless they KNOW you've got the nut straight.
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That doesn't make sense. I doubt anyone is stupid enough to bet that much as a bluff when their fold equity doesn't change greatly if they bet $10 instead of $37. He has a boat here way too often to make a call profitable.
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05-08-2007, 09:11 PM
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Mike McDermott
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I doubt anyone is stupid enough to listen to me give advice on a cash hand when I play SNGs 
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