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Old 05-07-2007, 02:22 PM
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Part 1) What do you do on this flop? My thoughts are BB has 88-JJ but MP1's call on the flop worries me, he might have a 7 if he's a donk but I haven't been at the table long enough yet to know if he is. I figure 78s or 67s would be folded PF with active players behind him. I called to see what happens on the turn although I know I should have probably folded/raised here.

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UTG ($23.65)
UTG+1 ($36.60)
MP1 ($31.65)
MP2 ($21.65)
CO ($30.25)
Hero ($24.85)
SB ($26.70)
BB ($31.45)

Preflop: Hero is Button with , .
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, CO calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.5, 1 fold, BB calls $1.25, MP1 calls $1.25, CO folds.

Flop: ($4.85) , , (3 players)
BB bets $2, MP1 calls $2, Hero???

Part 2) Is this an insta fold or are we still ahead enough of the time? I'm still thinking BB has the same range of hands but I don't know exactly what to make of MP1s call on the turn. Surely he raises a 7? And surely QQ is re raising PF.


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UTG ($23.65)
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MP1 ($31.65)
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CO ($30.25)
Hero ($24.85)
SB ($26.70)
BB ($31.45)

Preflop: Hero is Button with , .
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, CO calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.5, 1 fold, BB calls $1.25, MP1 calls $1.25, CO folds.

Flop: ($4.85) , , (3 players)
BB bets $2, MP1 calls $2, Hero calls $2.

Turn: ($10.85) (3 players)
BB bets $6.5, MP1 calls $6.50, Hero??
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Old 05-07-2007, 03:45 PM
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Raise flop. Raise turn.

They both have pairs.
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Old 05-07-2007, 04:25 PM
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Raise flop to about $11.

As played shove turn.

You are giving them too much respect. Unless I have stats to show they are uber tighties I will never give them any credit here. Their ranges are huge, just get it in on the flop, they'll pay you off with 88-JJ.

At NL25, please, NEVER fold that flop.

EDIT: another thing, that turn card is a great one for you, you will get paid off by alot more hands. If you don't put it in on the flop, you should be begging them to bet that turn IMO.
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Old 05-08-2007, 06:51 AM
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Come on, more replies!

I shoved the turn, I'll give results once more people weigh in with their opinions.
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Old 05-08-2007, 08:58 AM
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Quote:
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Raise flop. Raise turn.

They both have pairs.
All that needs to be said

Oh, and david's post isn't bad, either
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Old 05-08-2007, 09:02 AM
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Raise flop. Raise turn.
yep
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Old 05-08-2007, 11:58 AM
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MP1 has 79o
BB has QQ
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Old 05-09-2007, 11:52 PM
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BB has QQ
That's what I thought too...It may be a bluff though, but I don't think so. You should fold... defenetley fold
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