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Old 04-12-2007, 01:17 PM
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Default KK goes tits up in NL25

MP was UBER UBER aggressive 65/50/5. He basically kept raising constantly and so the plan here was the limp re-raise. In typical fashion however he limps behind and so does everyone else. How's my post-flop play here? A few questions:

Flop, 3-bet or call?
Turn, Raise or call (pretty sure calling is the way to go here)?
River, Block bet or check/call? Anyone lead for $10-12 here?

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|saw showdown

Button ($25.45)
SB ($24.74)
BB ($50.73)
Hero ($23.65)
MP ($58.97)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with , .
Hero calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.25) , , (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1, MP raises to $3, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls $2.

Turn: ($7.25) (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $4.25, Hero calls $4.25.

River: ($15.75) (2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks.

Final Pot: $15.75

Results in white below:
Hero has Ks Kd (one pair, kings).
MP has Tc 9s (one pair, nines).
Outcome: Hero wins $15.75.
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Old 04-12-2007, 05:27 PM
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Preflop - I like the plan, unfortunately it does not work out. However, your hand is very well disguised here and this can be a very profitable situation.

Flop - Nice 3/4 size pot bet. When he raises, I would almost contemplate a re-raise. if he is very aggressive, you may get a chance to get your whole stack in the middle. Though as played, I have not real problems

Turn - Scare card - though I doubt he is playing a flush draw. The check call is pretty weak. You can safely lead out and find out where you are at. If he raises, then I am pretty sure he does NOT have a flush. In fact all the action here SCREAMS he does not have a made hand.

River - Are you checking to check raise or are you truly afraid? The board at this point is pretty scary. If he is playing a flush draw, it is in. If he is playing a straight draw w/ 10J it came in. However, I am pretty sure he is not playing any of these hands. His check behind leads me to believe that he was playing top pair at some point (the flop most likely).


All in all, I think you could have been more aggressive. Your hand is very well disguised after the flop. The turn would be a GREAT spot to get it all in the middle. I would CRAI (check raise all in). If he is playing some trash hand like 10/7 then so be it. I can safely say he is not playing a suited hand and has no flush.
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i dont like the plan preflop, just raise and let him get out of control with that

on flop, you definately need to 3bet it up to $9-$11 especially since you have the maniac headsup.

at least raise the turn, you are likely ahead again since he is a maniac

i think you missed a stack here, he probably would get allin on the flop tbh
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Old 04-12-2007, 06:59 PM
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Build the pot preflop to get it in on the flop. He'll be more tempted to go crazy outplaying you is you raise it up out of position..

As played, I don't mind calling the flop knowing that he'll bet enough on the turn to where we can get him committed to calling a riverpush. It's a lot easier to get his stack if you raise preflop. PF raises aren't just for protection.
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Crazy how with stats like that he managed to find a hand not to raise with. I don't mind the way you played it little passive on the end but I suppose that being raised would put you in a tough spot. With crazy players like that it's almost best to just not get cute with them. Just almost play ABC poker and get in a good raise preflop let him call with his 9/10 hit top pair in this case and go broke on the flop.

You pretty much have to play this hand tentatively though as the check raise never got the chance to materialize. You could be up against anything.. and as Doyle always says.. you don't want to go broke in an unraised pot.
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Man I should of pushed that turn.

Because of some of my donkish play recently I guess I've just been very passive, expecting him to have 89 on that flop or Ax diamonds or something. As imar said, the fact this was an unraised pot really stopped me being aggressive.

This my friends is why I fucking hate limping with KK/AA
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