Both me and villian and very deepstacked, like both have 550$+ at the table.

NL200 Full Ring.

Dealt AKs of clubs in EP
Villian limps in EP, I raise to 10, someone in MP calls.
So 3 to the flop.

Flop is A89 with 2 clubs (potsize = 31$)
Villian checks, I bet 24$, MP folds. Villian Calls.

Turn is a offsuit 3.
Villian checks, I check behind.

River is a J of clubs. (potsize = 78$)
Villian checks.. we both still have over 500$ in our stacks... How much do you bet?

$77

I was going to say $75 before I even saw TA's post but now I like $77 more.

Did you put him on a draw? If so, why check the turn?

I'd bet about $60-$75 on the river.

multiple reasons actually:

- pot control, pot control, pot control... <-- one of the most important concepts in NLHE

- i have him on other a set, or a club draw, and thers a small chance he could have QJ for a straight draw as well, or a weaker Ace.
Therefore ur either way ahead or way behind.

- if he has a club draw hes drawing dead, if he has a straight draw i have 2 of his outs covered so hes drawing very thin, if he has a weaker Ace hes also drawing thin. By betting this turn, your allowing him to fold everything that you beat, and raising/calling with everything that beats you. Unless you bet it very weakly, like half pot or less so that the draws have the odds to call u down, but if u do this, then any smart villian will take it as a sign of weakness and therefore check-raise your small turn bet regardless if he has a set or not. If he does this, then you will have a harder time playing the turn, and if you call the turn raise, the river will be bloated, and thus you will have an even harder time playing the river.

- induce a bluff from villian on the river, which i can easily call down on the river if i miss my club (because i controlled the size of the pot by checking behind on the turn).

- by betting this turn, you risk getting check-raised by villian if he has a set. by checking behind, you take that cr away from him, and in the process minimize your losses vs the set (implied odds) while maximizing your profits vs a drawing hand, by allowing him to bluff a missed draw on the river.

- villian flat called a near potsized bet on the flop from the pf aggressor in a raised pot --> this means he either has u drawing dead, or he has a draw and your ahead, with a slight % chance that he has a weaker TP (AQ).

- betting the turn imo = -ev, because you will no longer get any value from a weaker hand, but u instead stand to lose when ur behind.

Bet it big - $75 - $78. If hes calling $50 he's calling $78.

I like the way you played this hand.

yup, played very well.

I've been playing nl 300 on bodog all morning, 3 times I flop TPTK, 3 times I check behind after a flop Cbet, all 3 times the river bricked, villian instabets pot, I beat them into the pot each time, and they missed a draw each time.

NL on bodog is so amazingly soft. Last night people were just randomly pushing all in. if there was any more than $6 in the pot it would generally be $200-$600 more to call. reminds me of party poker.

So what happened Eclipse?

i open pushed 500+ into a 78$ pot. Basically, my thinking was that he's either calling it all or hes not going to call any bet. Villian thought for a couple seconds then folded, then left the table right after the hand was finished. Maybe a lil too aggro on my part, but aw well.

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Aside from folding, pushing is definitely the worst thing you could do.

Just bet 60 like a normal person.