Pretty Standard - Page 3

WotaWaster · #21 (**permalink**) 12-24-2006, 04:17 PM

But there are 2 differences between playing a cash game properly rolled and a tournament.

If you gamble as a 51% favourite and lose in cash, you reload and it doesnt matter you have earned a very small amount of +EV. Even if you feel you could take a bigger edge over your oponent you are still correct to gamble here (unless you feel he is going to hit and run). In a tournament you may feel it is better to wait for a spot where you feel you will get all in as a 60% - 80% favourite.

Second is the value of reloading.
E.g if u limp PF with pocket pairs looking to hit a set with a 100bb stack in cash game and reload to 100bb after each time you miss you are playing each hand indvidually with decent implied odds etc.

In a tournamnet each time you miss the set the value of your next limp is decreased since you can't reload. In a sense each missed limp can cost you 2x/4x/8x as much with each double up you gain in tournament from opponents who cover you.

I feel this justifies playing tighter (when limping) in a tournamnet than you would in a cash game.

tightagressive · #22 (**permalink**) 12-24-2006, 04:32 PM

i generally fold pf too even though i didnt say so in my original post

gder03 · #23 (**permalink**) 12-24-2006, 05:04 PM

I think you should bet pot on the flop

tightagressive · #24 (**permalink**) 12-24-2006, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gder03

I think you should bet pot on the flop

check raise/bet 3bet > check calling > folding

Eclipse86 · #25 (**permalink**) 12-25-2006, 05:49 AM

man.... all this talk about tournaments makes me wanna play tourneys again..

Mr.McJ · #26 (**permalink**) 12-27-2006, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rebelutopian

Your attitude on the differences between cash and tournaments is really common, but totally false.

Cash equity in the early stages of a tournament is directly proportional to the number of chips you have. That means if you have, say, .78% of the total chips in play, then in terms of long term equity, they are worth .78% of the prize pool. If you have 1.56% of the chips in play, you are "entitled" to 1.56% of the prize pool. Notice how when you doubled up your stack, it's monetary value also doubled.

THIS IS THE EXACT SAME AS CASH GAMES

If you fold 52s in a tournament because you are interested in conserving chips, you should fold it in a cash game because you are interested in conserving money. They are one and the same.

The main difference between tournaments and cash games is the stack sizes. If 52s should be a call here but not in tourneys (WHICH IS NOT TRUE, CALLING STILL SUCKS BALLS) it's not because you need to conserve your tournament chips, but because the stacks at the table are likely not deep enough to grant you appropiate implied odds on flopping a monster.

In conclusion,
a) if a decision is +EV in a cash game, it is +EV in a tournament.
b) calling a raise with 52s sucks.

I would make this call in a tournament if my stack was deep enough to justify it.