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Old 12-16-2006, 02:24 PM
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Default i fucking quit these bullshit stakes. This is retarded

what the hell? I mean seriously.

Please tell me what i did wrong again. I figure he has a low pair and has me on overs. Or he has the FD. This is rediculious.

I absolutely crush the same damn game on UB. Absolutely kill it all day long, yet, i have not had a stars winning session in a week.

Every god damn time i get screwed over some moron making a retarded call then with bottom pair and he ALWAYS hit 2 pair on the turn or river. Always. Im done with this site. I have about $600 just sitting their slowing going down. I cannot beat stars anymore.

What other sites do u suggest? Other then FTP and UB because i already play UB and dont like FTP

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($7.95)
UTG ($8.40)
MP ($13.35)
Hero ($12.20)
Button ($16.30)
SB ($12.90)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T, T.
1 fold, MP calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.45, Button calls $0.45, 2 folds, MP folds.

Flop: ($1.15) 7, 3, 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.65, Button calls $0.65.

Turn: ($2.45) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $3, Button calls $3.

River: ($8.45) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $8.1 (All-In), Button calls $8.10.

Final Pot: $24.65

Shows 35o

I raised exactly what u guys told me to 3-4BB+ 1 per limper. Yet, 35 calls me. Calls flop with bottom pair, then sucks out on the river. Every time.


Sorry for another ranting whiney thread im just steaming again
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Old 12-16-2006, 03:20 PM
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Either pot it on the flop or overbet. Also, you're thinking too damn much for this level. Simply play position, guess their hand, and value bet EVERYTHING. People at these levels only care about their cards. They don't care about odds, your holding, position, or table dynamics.
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Old 12-16-2006, 03:31 PM
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Also he is calling you to the river. Why not check the river?


If you want to play small stakes here is my suggestion.

Play limit and approach it like this. Win very few pots but when you have the nuts use the calling stations to your advantage.

Its boring, you play even fewer hands, pre-flop and post flop stardegy change a whole lot, but it will save you money.
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Old 12-16-2006, 05:50 PM
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check the river
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Old 12-17-2006, 01:34 AM
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This hand wasn't played well by you, and isn't even worthy of being called a bad beat.

Your opponent made a terrible call preflop (but thats why you should beat this level). He then called a 1/2 pot size bet with 9 outs if he puts you on an overpair. He then called down with the winning hand.

You put far more money into this pot when you were behind than ahead and you had 1 pair on a board showing lots of conected cards for likely 2 pairs and a 1 card straight.

I think you need to be betting pot on the flop and then 1/2 pot on the turn rather than the other way around.

As I have said before you need to find some way to change your attitude. If I played this hand I would be angry with myself for putting 100bb into a pot I was losing. I would be angry with myself for betting the flop weak. I would be angry that I decided to overbet the pot on a 1 card straight board. I would question why I pushed the river.

You need to focus on what you can control, which is your own play.

You would probably think I was a donk if you played against me because if I know your willing to put your whole stack in with TT on that board I would call your raises and 1/2 pot bets with a very wide range of hands.
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Old 12-17-2006, 08:45 AM
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- dont play big pots OOP, unless you flop a monster
- dont overbet the turn
- dont overbet the river
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Old 12-17-2006, 01:19 PM
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Preflop fine.

Postflop, I bet pot here. I hate giving any odds to any donks....

Turn, as soon as that 5 comes I slow down, since any 4 beats me, and a lot of people could be playing low suited connectors like 56, 76, 34 and 54 just to name a few, all of those are beating you on this turn card.

Say you bet 2/3 of the pot on the turn and he calls. Its more than likely any bet you make on the river will only be called by a hand that beats you, theres no need to push this hand on the river like that. A lot of shit hands beat you, you need to realise that. All you have is an overpair.
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Post flop he did nothing wrong here. Is he folding everytime with 35 unless he flops a straight or boat? Of course not.

Take a look at this http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/pro-tip...20Smith&tip=88

It's short but I think you'll find it helpful
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Post flop he did nothing wrong here.
yes he did
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I think you need to work on your post-flop game more phoenix. You basically gave him odds to call if he put you on an over pair, which you did have. On the turn wtf why would you overbet. Flop is where you should have overbet the pot. 1 question. IF HE CALLED A OVERBET ON THE TURN WHY WOULD HE FOLD THE RIVER? HE OBVIOUSLY HAS YOU BEAT. River is a mandatory check/fold.
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