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Old 12-05-2006, 08:54 PM
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Default 5/10PLO (4-handed) Nut FD+Gutshot- Whole Lotta' Action

Me- (38/22/3.4)

SB is just bad/bluffy, so I didn't raise it up PF because I knew he was going to. UTG's (28/9/1.2), a fairly tough player just in that he slowplays too much. He never builds the pot

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Stack sizes:
UTG: $1995.50
Hero: $2320.75
SB: $594
BB: $364.90

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with
UTG calls, Hero calls, SB raises to $50, BB folds, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: ($160, 3 players)
SB bets $160, UTG raises to $320, Hero _______________ ???

NOTE: There's no doubt in my mind that all of SB's money is getting in the middle on this flop.
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You got a gut shot on the low end of the straight.

You got a crazy number of outs including the nut flush.

Chance that UTG has trips and isn't slow playing because he has action from SB.

My move.......
fold. I am not paying to the river vs. UTG who has 80% of my stack covered. If you call the turn unless UTG pushes you are pot committed. I say lay it down. UTG has to have a hand already.

Tournament I call. Cash ring game I fold.
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You got a gut shot on the low end of the straight.

You got a crazy number of outs including the nut flush.

Chance that UTG has trips and isn't slow playing because he has action from SB.

My move.......
fold. I am not paying to the river vs. UTG who has 80% of my stack covered. If you call the turn unless UTG pushes you are pot committed. I say lay it down. UTG has to have a hand already.

Tournament I call. Cash ring game I fold.
I posted this hand on another forum, too and deleted my whole hand when I was changing the code. so the cards could show up here. Got the ranks mixed with another hand. It was AT85.

Tournament, you call, but in a cash game you fold? That makes no sense. Explain.
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tough spot, im gonna throw this out here, and see what ppl think of this line..

flat call the flop and try to keep the pot small until you make ur straight or flush.
if sb pushes after u flat call (which he probably will), then UTG calls, and that is when I would push all in.
this way u get more dead money in the pot from UTG.
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I posted this hand on another forum, too and deleted my whole hand when I was changing the code. so the cards could show up here. Got the ranks mixed with another hand. It was AT85.

Tournament, you call, but in a cash game you fold? That makes no sense. Explain.
I gamble in tournaments (as we all know here if you played me) if I call the turn with a big bet and river doesnt hit me I got chips left play with. As long as I got chips in a tournament I got a shot. Earlier in a 45 man SNG I was short stacked at the final table and took the chip lead. Im not afraid to be short stacked in a tourney.

In a cash game it is real money. I lose $600 in a cash game it is more than likely a long time of grinding it out to recover it. I am just now figuring this out. I lost BR after BR in cash games.

I am betting UTG had trips and you have to worry about the board doubling up even if you hit your straight or flush, or you may have to see the river in order to possibly hit.

Dont like the pot odds. I fold. If he has trips he sees the draws. If it doesn't hit on the turn he is going to give you horrible odds on the river if he knows what he is doing. Easy lay down for me with his bet on the flop.
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