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Old 12-04-2006, 01:50 PM
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Default Playing JJ's thinking ur beat PF. What do you do?

fletcher10 is at seat 0 with $16.07.
wexdaflex is at seat 1 with $14.97.
me99799 is at seat 2 with $3.77.
Tee TTAM is at seat 3 with $5.76.
pokeraceg is at seat 4 with $5.90.
efbwinagain is at seat 5 with $11.82.
The button is at seat 2.

Tee TTAM posts the small blind of $.05.
pokeraceg posts the big blind of $.10.

fletcher10: Jd Js
wexdaflex: -- --
me99799: -- --
Tee TTAM: -- --
pokeraceg: -- --
efbwinagain: -- --

Pre-flop:

efbwinagain raises to $.35. fletcher10 re-raises to
$.85. 2 folds. Tee TTAM
re-raises to $1.75. 2 folds. fletcher10 ??????


Im putting him on AA, KK, or QQ. I dont know why, but i bassically know thats what he has. POSSIBLY 1010 but im doubting it.

What do you do PF. Do you raise thinking ur best? Do you call and see a flop? Do you fold having a strong feeling ur drawing to a 2 outer?

My action in white(Highlight to see):
I decided to call

Say we call or raise, and the flop comes completly blank.

Like 269 all different suits. Hes first to act. What do you do if he 1/2-Pots it. What do you do if he checks? Are you playing the flop like ur ahead?

Are you lying down to very aggressive flop play even against a completly blank flop, like above??


FULL HAND RESULTS BELOW IN WHITE (Highlight to see):

Hand #37040098-30476 at Bithell (No Limit Hold'em)
Started at 04/Dec/06 16:11:24

fletcher10 is at seat 0 with $16.07.
wexdaflex is at seat 1 with $14.97.
me99799 is at seat 2 with $3.77.
Tee TTAM is at seat 3 with $5.76.
pokeraceg is at seat 4 with $5.90.
efbwinagain is at seat 5 with $11.82.
The button is at seat 2.

Tee TTAM posts the small blind of $.05.
pokeraceg posts the big blind of $.10.

fletcher10: Jd Js
wexdaflex: -- --
me99799: -- --
Tee TTAM: -- --
pokeraceg: -- --
efbwinagain: -- --

Pre-flop:

efbwinagain raises to $.35. fletcher10 re-raises to
$.85. wexdaflex folds. me99799 folds. Tee TTAM
re-raises to $1.75. pokeraceg folds. efbwinagain
folds. fletcher10 calls.

Flop (board: 2c 2s Jh):

Tee TTAM bets $1. fletcher10 raises to $6.55. Tee
TTAM goes all-in for $4.01 ($3.01 more). fletcher10 is returned
$2.34 (uncalled).

Turn (board: 2c 2s Jh 9s):

River (board: 2c 2s Jh 9s 6h):

Showdown:

fletcher10 shows Jd Js.
fletcher10 has Jd Js 2c 2s Jh: full house, jacks full of deuces.
Tee TTAM shows Qc Qd.
Tee TTAM has Qc Qd 2c 2s Jh: two pair, queens and deuces.

Hand #37040098-30476 Summary:
$.59 is raked from a pot of $11.97.
fletcher10 wins $11.38 with full house, jacks full of deuces.

I got lucky on the flop, i still put him on an overpair, and was 99% sure he was calling. However, i feel like i probably should have called and gotten it in on the turn. Again, however, i risk an A coming and him folding his QQ or KK
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Old 12-04-2006, 03:02 PM
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After you made the call PF, you are definately correct to get it in on the flop. If you are pretty sure he has a big pair, then he will probably not be able to get away from it. The call PF was okay. If you assume that ur read is correct and you play only for set value, then you can win the rest of his stack, as you did, and it is worth it.
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Old 12-04-2006, 03:16 PM
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I probably flat call this, and play it for a set.
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I probably flat call this, and play it for a set.
Agree, but only if I'm sure (for whatever reason) that I'm beat PF. Any doubt, flat call PF, feeler raise on the flop, 2-3x his bet.
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You should always flat call a 3-bet with JJ as deep as this relative to the bet. Re-evaluate on the flop, but you're set-mining about 60% of the time.
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