
12-03-2006, 06:29 PM
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Stu Ungar
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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What the hell am i doing wrong?
Seriously, critisize the shit outa me, it only helps
Hand 1 --
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
SB ($10.75)
BB ($12.15)
UTG ($11.55)
Hero ($8.35)
CO ($7.35)
Button ($11)
Preflop: Hero is MP with T  , T  .
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.5, 1 fold, Button calls $0.50, 2 folds.
Flop: ($1.15) J  , 4  , 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.55, Button calls $0.55. <<WTF!!??!?!?!
Turn: ($2.25) A (2 players)
Hero bets $1, Button calls $1.
River: ($4.25) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.
Final Pot: $4.25
Shows As9s
Hand 1. Wtf is he doing calling that flop. Should have taken it down right there. I guess i could have slowed down on the turn, but wtf hand would have that improved that wasnt already ahead. I figured he was on the FD.
Hand 2 --
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
UTG ($11.05)
MP ($9.80)
CO ($10.90)
Hero ($10.25)
SB ($7.40)
BB ($12)
Preflop: Hero is Button with Q  , J  .
1 fold, MP calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.35, 1 fold, BB calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25.
Flop: ($1.10) 3  , 9  , 2 (3 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero checks.
Turn: ($1.10) K (3 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $0.55, BB calls $0.55, MP calls $0.55.
River: ($2.75) 2 (3 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $1, BB folds, MP raises to $2, Hero folds.
Final Pot: $5.75
Shows 2s,6d << WTF?!?!?!?!
Hand 2 - Again, should have taken that down on one of the streets, and i would have, had the 26 moron not been in the hand
Hand 3 - PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Button ($10.40)
SB ($3.10)
Hero ($9.55)
UTG ($4.35)
MP ($14.05)
Preflop: Hero is BB with K  , A  .
1 fold, MP raises to $0.2, 1 fold, SB calls $0.15, Hero raises to $0.5, MP calls $0.30, SB calls $0.30.
Flop: ($1.50) 9  , J  , 8 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks.
Turn: ($1.50) K (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $0.4, SB calls $0.40, Hero calls $0.40.
River: ($2.70) 3 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $1, SB calls $1, Hero calls $1.
Final Pot: $5.70
Shows kc, 8c
Hand 3 - Probably could have prevented it with a bigger re-raise, or laying it down somewhere along the line, but i really didnt put either on hearts, which i was right.
Whatever i do i feel like i cannot beat these people.
They make -ev move after -ev move after -ev move and get paid off
What am i doing wrong.
Every table im playing at, the WORST player at the table has the biggest stack.
EDIT. Somehow i atleast still left both tables above
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Last edited by phoenixdan5; 12-03-2006 at 06:49 PM.
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12-03-2006, 06:48 PM
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PokerForums God
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Hand #1- This is a great flop. Don't probe it. You have the best hand. Bet .75 and the rest of your hand is fine.
Hand #2/#3 are the same hand. You didn't copy the 3rd hand.
Hand #2- WTF is that raise about? Raise 3.5 to 4x+# of limpers at the least PF. Your hand isn't good. Raise to 5x or call. That raise is pointless. In position, when they check-check, bet 65-75% of the pot because 2 are gonna act. You don't want a free turn. Your odds suck at catching a hand. If you had 45, a check would be good.
You took a stab at the turn which'll get called by A3 after you don't CB the flop. If you wait 'til the turn, you'll have to bet 75%-PS to take it down.
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12-03-2006, 06:52 PM
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Stu Ungar
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the alex
Hand #2/#3 are the same hand. You didn't copy the 3rd hand.
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Just fixed it
Quote:
Originally Posted by the alex
Hand #2- WTF is that raise about? Raise 3.5 to 4x+# of limpers at the least PF. Your hand isn't good. Raise to 5x or call. That raise is pointless. In position, when they check-check, bet 65-75% of the pot because 2 are gonna act. You don't want a free turn. Your odds suck at catching a hand. If you had 45, a check would be good.
You took a stab at the turn which'll get called by A3 after you don't CB the flop. If you wait 'til the turn, you'll have to bet 75%-PS to take it down.
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Just what im looking for. Thank you. Obviously going to same the same thing about PF hand 3. Starting to realize this is obviously one of the bigger leaks.
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12-03-2006, 07:21 PM
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Stu Ungar
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Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 2,672
Limits Played: $1-$2 NL
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#1 While your flop bet is good (could be higher) the turn bet I dont like. I check/fold here. Problem is 2 flush draws, 2 broadway cards, no way to know where your at in the hand when he calls.
#2 just check behind and hope you make the nuts. Your opponents MUST(!!!) have something by now, and since theyre donks, they WILL NOT FOLD
#3 very well played, u got unlucky!
Last edited by OrionPro; 12-03-2006 at 07:26 PM.
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12-04-2006, 02:55 AM
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Mike McDermott
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I think you need to start betting bigger. Make all your bets 75% - 100% of pot.
E.g. Hand 2 you are basically bluffing into 2 players having been checked to twice with a 1/2 pot bet. I would probably call that with any pair and occasionaly raise with nothing.
Last edited by WotaWaster; 12-04-2006 at 02:57 AM.
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12-04-2006, 01:38 PM
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Mike McDermott
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hand 1, bet 90% of pot, not 50%, if you get called, check fold all the way. Please don't bet this turn.
hand 2. check fold all the way
hand 3. - I like it.
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12-04-2006, 02:10 PM
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Check Raiser
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In general, bet bigger when you have it, you shouldn't be unhappy with taking down a small pot on the flop.
At these lower limit games, there is almost no need to stab at multi-way pots on the flop. When the BB is under $1 you can play tighter than a ducks butt and still get payed off when you hit big. The only time I bet with absolutely nothing is a continuation bet on a flop with only 1 or 2 players.
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12-04-2006, 02:15 PM
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Stu Ungar
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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Thx guys taking everything said into account and into action
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