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Old 12-01-2006, 12:28 PM
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It was a hard laydown because this guy bluffed a few pots. I did lay it down however.





PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($66.10)
MP ($69.35)
Button ($11.65)
Hero ($23)
BB ($42.80)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T, Q.
UTG raises to $1, 1 fold, Button calls $1, Hero calls $0.75, BB calls $0.50.

Flop: ($4) 9, 7, Q (4 players)
Hero bets $2, BB folds, UTG calls $2, Button folds.

Turn: ($8) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $4, UTG raises to $31.5, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $43.50

Results in white below:
No showdown. UTG wins $43.50.
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Old 12-01-2006, 01:50 PM
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bad call pf,
the above example is a perfect reason on why u dont play QTo to raise, OOP.
cuz anytme u make TP, and get action, you will have no idea where ur at
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bad call pf,
the above example is a perfect reason on why u dont play QTo to raise, OOP.
cuz anytme u make TP, and get action, you will have no idea where ur at
This wasn't a raise. It was a power-limp. That's ridiculous. I'd re-raise PF to $3 against most people OOP here- maybe 70%-75% of the time. Make him define his hand.

Nice laydown. You played the hand well. Nothing that beats you is just calling and nothing that you beat is raising while Q8s, JJ, TT, AK, 88 and maybe even AJ are calling you down. This really shouldn't be a tough laydown because you could only beat JJ. This is an easy lawdown.
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Min raise UTG = total donkey with AA usually (or idiot like me with 56s trying to look like a donkey with AA). Either way QTo has little value OOP. Fold preflop.

If the guy is a habitual min raiser then you need to start sometimes rasing 3x his gay raise with hands like this.
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Eclipse not sure about cash but in a tourney that's a reasonable preflop call- of course, you must get away from it and he did. I'd want them to be SOOOOTED though.
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dont play weak hands oop, dont gaylead into the pf raiser with a hand like this because if that was me im very likley to float you on the flop and raise your turn bet.


however in this spot you were most certainly beat, so good fold.
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Call me crazy but I think I'm check raising the flop and folding if I get played back at.
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I was on tilt on this hand because he was bluffing and showing. I wanted to nail him. Stupid I know.
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I'd re-raise PF to $3 against most people OOP here- maybe 70%-75% of the time. Make him define his hand.
ya, i dont mind a re-raise here cuz a re-raise is definately a better play then flat calling. If u want to play this hand you have to re-raise. FLAT CALLINg is the worst thing to do here. Either RR or fold. Basically you want to take the flop as the pf aggressor so u can take it down with a flop cb.

If u flat call, the odds are against u hitting the flop.. and when u check to him, hes betting like 99% of the time. so you will lose money that way from calling and folding on a missed flop.
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