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Old 11-14-2006, 05:12 AM
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Villain is fairly loose/aggro. Me and him have gotten involved in a few pots already and with my positional advantage (he's sitting on my right) coupled with my hyper aggression, I've come out the on top as the victor more often than not.

His min-raise PF means nothing as he opens up a lot of pots with 2/3bb raises from LP and his bets on the flop/turn don't necessarily mean strength either cause he's the kind of player who fights for pots once he's invested anything into them. I thought about flat calling his $50 raise on the turn and then checking to him on the river but the straight draw and flush draw scared me a little.

Was my all in raise too much? Villain only had something like $120 behind at this point so if I'm raising him here, it might as well be all in, right?



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Button ($182.05)
Hero ($272.45)
BB ($58)
UTG ($125.65)
UTG+1 ($17.75)
MP1 ($102.90)
MP2 ($64.45)
CO ($141.85)

Preflop: Hero is SB with , .
2 folds, MP1 calls $1, 2 folds, Button raises to $2, Hero calls $1.50, 1 fold, MP1 calls $1.

Flop: ($7) , , (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $2, Button raises to $4, Hero calls $4, MP1 calls $2.

Turn: ($19) (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, Button bets $10, Hero raises to $30, MP1 folds, Button raises to $50, Hero raises to $266.45, Button folds.

Final Pot: $335.45

Results in white below:
No showdown. Hero wins $335.45.

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Old 11-14-2006, 05:38 AM
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As deme once posted the 4th bet in NL hold Em is for people who don't know where the all in button is.

Either flat call or push. That min 3rd bet means either he absolutely nothing or he thinks he has the best hand calling an all in imo.
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Old 11-14-2006, 11:16 AM
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i watchd a video from card runners yesterday and it had this exact same situation...the guy would lead out, min raise everything and eventually bet out ...the analyzer said i want to get a better hand to get my money in


flat call here on the turn...

hopefully a blank hits and he throws a bullet at the pot

the pot should be about 109 at the time of the river

he will probably throw a substantial 75- pot bet at you, min raise him forces him to commit his chips, he'll either call with ak or foldski but you get another 75- pot out of him for value

if you dont want to check and first to act

bet scared at the pot 25-40 that way it looks like you think your mid pair is good, if he comes over the top 2 to 3 times all you can eat mother fucker
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I raise on the flop and play the turn the same way.
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call his gay flop raise and check it to him on the river. he hangs imself imo
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pretty much what i said ta, he blufs big time at this pot lot o money in this pot or him being stackd like this, he might push even on the river after you check.....then boooooooooom
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lol raise flop dude
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lol raise flop dude
But I not entirely sure how strong he is here. I thought about raising the flop but feared it would scare him off.
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lol raise flop dude
I would raise the flop only VS a n oponent know to bet his FDs...

I see no reasons to do if not...
+ Flat calling here may induce your oponent to check raise the turn if you are known to be agressive


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Old 11-16-2006, 12:14 PM
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You know he is loose aggressive so you can expect a raise on the flop, so i would bet the flop about $5. From what MP1 did he would have probably called also, giving you some dead money to pick up when Button raises you. If you flat call, then check the turn, he will probably make a much bigger bet on the turn because the pot will then be around $37. then you raise him off it. Seeing as he has absolutely nothing i dont think it is possible to stack him.
Personally i bet the flop then reraise big on the flop because im scared of the flush draw.
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