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Old 11-06-2006, 03:16 PM
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Default Letting Him Get There = +EV?

Do you think my flop bet is +EV here? I had been kind of pushing the table around a bit and I wasn't getting a lot of action anymore. I didn't want to check the flop and let a FD get there for free but at the same time I wanted to induce a weaker hand to call.

The turn I'll admit I played poorly. My biggest mistake was not realisng how short stacked he was. I put myself into a situation where I couldn't fold but I wasn't actually getting the right price to call. I think I should have bet closer to pot, say $6-$7.





PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed)

Hero ($103.45)
CO ($56.35)
Button ($33.40)
SB ($56.10)
BB ($14)
UTG ($19)
UTG+1 ($51.70)
MP1 ($33.10)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with , .
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.50, Hero raises to $1.5, 3 folds, BB calls $1, MP1 calls $1.

Flop: ($4.75) , , (3 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $1, BB calls $1, MP1 calls $1.

Turn: ($7.75) (3 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $3, BB raises to $6, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $12, BB calls $5.50 (All-In).

River: ($31.25) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $31.25

Results in white below:
BB has 6s 9s (two pair, nines and sixes).
Hero has Kc Qc (one pair, kings).
Outcome: BB wins $30.75. Hero wins $0.50.
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Old 11-06-2006, 08:19 PM
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It is basically EV neutral for him call your flop bet. Why not make him pay for being a donkey, it is only king high and there are already two to a flush and two to a straight on the board. I would bet around 3.5.

EDIT: The implied odds would make the donkey's play +EV, if he got the read that you would double him with TP.

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Old 11-06-2006, 10:20 PM
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I think your flop play loses value. Your turn is +EV.

Flop I would bet pot in 3 way. Reasons;

1. Your image is aggressive, meaning opponents will start calling you w/ eaker hands. IMO this is the whole point of aggressive play, for them to react, not for you to start playing weaker b/c you want more action. - its like if I raise 80% of hands from, button, I sure as hell am going to raise from button when I get dealt AA.

2. Flop is drawy as a mofo. bad cards = diamond, Ace, possible strait cards etc..

On turn, id prolly bet 6$. I think the draw ads value to "slowing down", however only in a community pot vs bigger stacks. Your facing 2 opponents both who are short. BB does you a favor by isolating. I call his c/r all day.
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