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Old 10-26-2006, 05:08 AM
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Default I had no idea how to play this flop....

UTG+1 seems pretty LAG preflop but he also seems to be pretty good at it. I've seen him pass the opportunity to c-bet before so his raise here means either an overpair or a big draw (AK of hearts, for example.) SB is a bit of an idiot and we're not really afraid of him at all.

I thought about raising the SB but feared that UTG+1 would come over the top of me and price me out. When it came back around to me, I was a little unsure on how to proceed. I'm getting over 3 to 1 on my money but I'm not sure that the or are live. If either of those cards happen to show up on the next street, I'm could very well lose a lot more money trying to figure out if I'm beat. Not only that but $5 is a lot more than I wanted to spend on the turn card and having only invested $2 at this point I figured I could cut my losses and walk away.

Bad fold? Should I have raised the SB on the flop to see how UTG+1 responded?





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MP3 ($50.55)
CO ($73.10)
Button ($60.45)
SB ($40.80)
BB ($52.50)
Hero ($51.10)
UTG+1 ($45.55)
MP1 ($11.30)
MP2 ($6.75)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with , .
Hero calls $0.50, UTG+1 raises to $1.5, 3 folds, CO calls $1.50, 1 fold, SB calls $1.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.

Flop: ($6.50) , , (4 players)
SB bets $0.5, Hero calls $0.50, UTG+1 raises to $5, CO folds, SB calls $4.50, Hero folds.

Turn: ($17) (2 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 bets $10, SB folds.

Final Pot: $27

Results in white below:
No showdown. UTG+1 wins $27.
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Old 10-26-2006, 05:49 AM
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Folding is a solid choice. It's questionable whether you'll get all his money when you hit one of your 6 outs.
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Very standard fold for me.

Calling is not an option with

a) Around 3:1 pot odds on an at best a 4.5-1 draw and little implied odds if a 1 card straight hits as it is too obvious.
EDIT: Just Realised there is not another player still to act. I still fold though because as you say you are drawing to just 6 strong outs.

Pushing all in is better than calling but you will need a large amount of fold equity since if called you are usually behind.

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Very standard fold for me.

Calling is not an option with

a) 2:1 pot odds on an at best 4.5-1 draw and little implied odds if a 1 card straight hits as it is too obvious.
b) Another player still to act.

Pushing all in is better than calling but you will need a large amount of fold equity since if called you are usually behind.
What he said.
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I also agree with the fold, I also like calling the raise here. It is only a 3X raise, plus UTG+1 has almost a full buy in here.
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Good fold. The only other thing I could see doing is re-raising but it's too risky at a full table.
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