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Old 10-18-2006, 08:27 AM
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MP ($101)
CO ($297.10)
Button ($237.10)
SB ($97.50)
Hero ($100)
UTG ($139.20)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
UTG calls $1, 1 fold, CO calls $1, Button calls $1, SB completes, Hero raises to $5, UTG folds, CO folds, Button calls $4, SB calls $4.

Flop: ($17) , , (3 players)
SB bets $16, Hero raises to $50, Button folds, SB folds.

Final Pot: $83
Main Pot: $49, won by Hero.
Pot 2: $34, returned to Hero.

Results in white below:
No showdown. Hero wins $83.
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Old 10-18-2006, 09:43 AM
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If you're worried about the FD, well played, but I'd consider slow-playing it and just call.
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I was thinking about slowplaying it, but I was thinking about a hand from yesterday.
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Old 10-18-2006, 11:51 AM
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QQ is currently my worst nightmare too. I'm only winning 60% currently, which is just terrible. Everytime QQ vs AJ I get beaten by 2 aces or trip jacks. Long-term PT tells me QQ wins 80%, so I'm still in the middle of a terrible losing streak.
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I like your raise. He bet the pot (I'd say AdXd, AQ, 99-JJ), you jacked him 3x. Good play.
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Old 10-18-2006, 12:52 PM
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No more QQ for me

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Hero ($105.55)
MP ($57.85)
Button ($53.30)
SB ($135.85)
BB ($100.30)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with , .
Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, Button calls $4, SB calls $3.50, 1 fold.

Flop: ($13) , , (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $10, Button raises to $29, SB folds, Hero raises to $101.55, Button calls $20.30 (All-In).

Turn: ($163.85) (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($163.85) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $163.85
Main Pot: $111.60, between Hero and Button. > Pot won by Button ($111.60).
Pot 2: $52.25, returned to Hero.

Results in white below:
Hero has Qd Qs (two pair, queens and nines).
Button has Kh Kc (two pair, kings and nines).
Outcome: Button wins $111.60. Hero wins $52.25.
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Well played on both hands IMO. If you want to cut the odds of the FD you have to raise it 2.5X at least. However I may have consider an all in bet making it look like a more emotional move... in any way 50$ is a lot to much to give you options on turn, if you get a call! You will have 46$ in front of you with a 110$ pot in the middle of the table... The only othe option you have is to use your position and flat call and hope he leads the turn too.

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No way you can put button on KK or AA. A set, TPTK, a str8 or a FD or a combination of a pair and a draw is a lot more probable. However I think you are still ahead the range of hand he can make that move with! I reraise and hope my hand is the best and will hold!

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