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Old 10-15-2006, 06:34 PM
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PokerStars Game #6648578207: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2006/10/15 - 21:24:21 (ET)
Table 'Impala' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: caseman6 ($46.40 in chips)
Seat 2: 7vinny7 ($144.05 in chips)
Seat 3: DoobyScoo ($257.05 in chips)
Seat 4: gambler2k4 ($233.60 in chips)
Seat 5: thingthing ($199 in chips)
Seat 6: Acid Fire ($684.40 in chips)
caseman6: posts small blind $1
7vinny7: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to caseman6 [Ac Ah]
DoobyScoo: folds
gambler2k4: folds
thingthing: raises $6 to $8
Acid Fire: folds
caseman6: raises $38.40 to $46.40 and is all-in
7vinny7: folds
thingthing: folds
caseman6 collected $18 from pot
caseman6: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $18 | Rake $0
Seat 1: caseman6 (small blind) collected ($18)
Seat 2: 7vinny7 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: DoobyScoo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: gambler2k4 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: thingthing folded before Flop
Seat 6: Acid Fire (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)



and.. same person does it..

PokerStars Game #6648596553: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2006/10/15 - 21:25:44 (ET)
Table 'Impala' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: caseman6 ($56.40 in chips)
Seat 2: 7vinny7 ($141.05 in chips)
Seat 3: DoobyScoo ($255.05 in chips)
Seat 4: gambler2k4 ($233.60 in chips)
Seat 5: thingthing ($203 in chips)
Seat 6: Acid Fire ($684.40 in chips)
DoobyScoo: posts small blind $1
gambler2k4: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to caseman6 [Qd Qc]
thingthing: raises $6 to $8
Acid Fire: folds
caseman6: raises $12 to $20
7vinny7: folds
DoobyScoo: folds
gambler2k4: folds
thingthing: folds
caseman6 collected $19 from pot
caseman6: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $19 | Rake $0
Seat 1: caseman6 collected ($19)
Seat 2: 7vinny7 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: DoobyScoo (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: gambler2k4 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: thingthing folded before Flop
Seat 6: Acid Fire folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Old 10-16-2006, 06:48 AM
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There isn't really a need to commit that much pre flop with Queens (without just pushing pre flop). There are a lot of scary flops (more than for aces) and you don't want to be folding on the flop with that much in the pot or making a call knowing you're probably behind. I would have re raised all in but I'd have to know the player first. If he was a tight player I would flat call and try and get a feel for where I am when the flop comes out.

To get more value for your aces you could have flat called because he had position on you and it would have been a great opportunity to check raise him (or even check call the flop if there's no draws). The only danger of this is you want to isolate the one player and not let other people in relatively cheap. It depends on how many people on the table were calling raises.
I very rarely re raise all in with Aces pre flop in a cash game, the only situation would be if there was a danger of a multi way pot developing or if there had already been a re raise in front of me and I was likely to get a call.

This isn't to say you're wrong, just how I'd have played them.
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