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Old 10-08-2006, 06:09 PM
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NL100 on the Ongame Network.

Dealt JJ in the BB.
3 limpers, sb limps, and I raise to $7

One of the EP limpers calls, as does the SB. We all have stacks of about 90-100BBs+.

Flop: J 4 6 (all diamonds) - potsize is about $25.

Sb checks, I pot the flop, EP limper flat calls, as does the SB. Weird...

Turn: A of clubs - potsize is about $100. I have about $59 left.

Sb checks, I move all in..


Standard? Am I going broke to the flush here 100% of the time? There is just no way i can put down as played, right?
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Old 10-08-2006, 06:15 PM
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Every time. He could easily have lower trips, top pair and A of diamonds.
You cant really fold for $59 into $100 anyway so best to put it in yourself.

Edit: Didn't read that you got 2 calls on flop. To be fair I still can't fold top trips there with outs, so push it in but I would expect to see 1 of them have flush. You'll still win pot 33% of time against a flush anyway so its only marginally incorrect odds to play if he turns over his hand and shows a flush.

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Old 10-08-2006, 06:57 PM
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Yes and no.

You chose to take the big lead before the flop, so in this case, yes.

There's the school of thought that out of position (especially in the BB), Jacks are better played for set value. You had 2 limpers along and checking puts only $3 in the pot. Of course, how big the pot gets is up to Nostradamus, but you'll have more options.

I play Jacks-Nines this way because it's a counter of how I'm generally perceived. I play my position more than my cards in NL, but my opponents don't see it that way. I can not go broke here by checking because someone with a flush with slowplay the flop and raise me on the turn for an amount that I can call without going broke because I've given no "you got action" cue.

You're a bit more of a solid player that more protective of their hands, so where I have big swings flopping big draws with like 58s against big-medium overpairs, you're gonna swing in these pots when you start with big hands that get bigger, but run into bad luck. But overall, just like I'll more dead money in the multiway pots to make some iffy moves +EV, you're up against big draws, TP, and lower sets enough to make your postflop plays +EV when you have the best hand or fill up.
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