*sigh* I only responded with that quote because it was obvious that we weren't changing each other's minds and it would be pointless to go back and forth for another twelve pages trying to do so. I don't like wasting time energy discussing something that isn't going to lead anywhere.

I have a certain style of play I like adhere to. I want people to give respect when I make big bets (most of the time), does that mean I don't bluff? Absolutely not, just in the "right" places (though the right places are often the wrong places). It's obvious that you are a more aggressive player than I, which is a good thing, but also can be a bad thing. To me bet/raising all the time can get you in trouble, as seen in a recent S&G I played. I'm not above critisim (no where near), but I don't like blanket statements that you have to play certain hands, certain ways. I like to try to do things creatively, outside the box (if that's possible), sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. If I got a big hand against some that's being over aggressive (i.e. above) I'm gonna try to trap him for all his chips, if something bad happens in the process: fold, move on, lesson learned, try it differently next time.

But yeah, I kinda get defensive, when people spout of "that was played badly, very badly" without any quanitative backing, but against that's just me.

The comment about the PFO, was meant to indicated something that had been going on for quite some time, not just in the past 5 months.

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Bean181818: some guy came up just grabbed my hand and starting massaging it, since it wasn't you, i told him to fuck off
xcrunman02: yeah only I can do that, i don't need some gook trying to get with my life partner
Bean181818: i've been faithful
xcrunman02: me too
Bean181818: peck tried to get all this but i told him this was all taken, all of it!

because you and david tend to think that his preflop play, is too passive, and im here to say that there isnt one clear cut way to play it. its apparent the villan is a donkey who intended to get his stack in either way.

Thing is, if you have AA you don't want a multiway pot. This is even more true at that stage of the tourney and when you're OOP.

This isn't about me and jharding being more aggressive, it's about not getting into hugely reverse implied odds situations when there's no need to.

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If it had been in HA I would have explained but it wasn't there which is why I made a blanket statement.

I refuse to accept that your play here is "outside the box". It's how I'd expect a n00b to play it

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Do you ever slow play aces? Btw, I just figured out your freaky-deaky way of counting bets. Didn't make any since until I read one of your other threads. Since when is a reraise a 3 bet?

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Bean181818: some guy came up just grabbed my hand and starting massaging it, since it wasn't you, i told him to fuck off
xcrunman02: yeah only I can do that, i don't need some gook trying to get with my life partner
Bean181818: i've been faithful
xcrunman02: me too
Bean181818: peck tried to get all this but i told him this was all taken, all of it!

I like to limp w/ AA too!
I check, call all the way to the river!
and then go all in!
They never put you on AA!

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Be the Ball Danny!

You're kidding right? If a respected PFO'er tells me I'm wrong then I'll take it back but I'm pretty sure a re raise is a 3 bet and I can't believe you don't know this. Blind - Raise - Re raise = 3 in my book.

Yes I do slow play aces on the rare occasion that we get the right circumstances. I can't be arsed to dig it up but I made a thread in HA where I cold called a 3 bet PF and played it as you did post flop.

As we've determined, I'm more aggressive than you so I don't need to slow play very often.

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http://www.pokerforums.org/showthrea...193#post188193

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In any case a "three bet" on the flop is like adding an extra "bet" in on the flop, turn and river, because you don't have an automatic bet on those streets. The first bet on the I.E. a Raise and Reraise, is different than a Bet, Raise, and Reraise.

What were you thinking cold calling a reraise PF, that's still a multi-way pot, how dare you!

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Bean181818: some guy came up just grabbed my hand and starting massaging it, since it wasn't you, i told him to fuck off
xcrunman02: yeah only I can do that, i don't need some gook trying to get with my life partner
Bean181818: i've been faithful
xcrunman02: me too
Bean181818: peck tried to get all this but i told him this was all taken, all of it!

semantics are fun.

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