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    Default Folded KK pre flop

    Play in mid position shoved the opening hand from mid position in a $4.40 MTT.

    Folded KK from the BB.

    Figured he had aces and didnt want to risk the lot first up.

    First time ever folding KK pre flop.

    Turns out he shoves Q9s second hand lol
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    Not folding KK preflop ever in a MTT, and very rarely in a cash game.

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    Exact thing happened only 2 days ago .. called with KK and he showed AA. Got me scared

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    I'd never fold without reads, people do some pretty retarded stuff. Open shoving for no reason qualifies imo.

    Don't focus on the fact that they 'could' have AA, try to think about all the hands they could hold. Some people might be capable of open shoving QQ, or rarely AK or JJ. As long as you can expect to be against worse hands more against good hands it's worth a call.

    If you see someone fold 50-100 hands in a row, and then open shove, that's more likely a fold. (Which actually happens in microstakes cash a lot)

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    question for yous. u rase with kk and u get 1 caller. and theres an ace on the board. how do u play ur kk? usually i would just fold because the ace inless i have a good read

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    Horrible fold! For one thing if he has AA, he isn't just going to open shove on the first hand with the blinds at 10/20. He is going to make a raise and try to get as much value as he can. Anyone who open shoves on the first hand in any tournament is a bad player. NO EXCEPTIONS. Worst case is he sucks out on your KK, but you know you got it in good. It's a $4 MTT! No way in hell im ever folding KK preflop in this situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daniel1 View Post
    question for yous. u rase with kk and u get 1 caller. and theres an ace on the board. how do u play ur kk? usually i would just fold because the ace inless i have a good read
    Play the hand as if you have AKo or some strong ace. You raised preflop you need to control the action and maintain that you have the hand that you began to represent {Ax}. Now if you get some serious pushback with some reraises or shoves on flop then you can let it go... but I am going to be raising KK on A-x-x flop to get as much info and value out of the hand
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    Quote Originally Posted by daniel1 View Post
    question for yous. u rase with kk and u get 1 caller. and theres an ace on the board. how do u play ur kk? usually i would just fold because the ace inless i have a good read
    Same way you'd play any 2nd pair, it depends on reads/board texture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I'mRooted View Post
    Play in mid position shoved the opening hand from mid position in a $4.40 MTT.

    Folded KK from the BB.

    Figured he had aces and didnt want to risk the lot first up.

    First time ever folding KK pre flop.

    Turns out he shoves Q9s second hand lol
    There is a time for folding KK buts its definitely not early in a mtt. I do appreciate your trust in your reads though. For me the only time kk is folding preflop is if the bubble is involved or huge payout differencials. I learned alot about spotting AA KK QQ in my most recent read. Who better to learn from than the pros right ?

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    Yeahhh this sounds so profitable in the long run...
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