I play 25c 45 and 90 player SNG's
I'm playing TAG and doing okay.
What kills me is those river suckouts to flushes and straights.
Coming close to the bubble I seem to have only an average sized chipstack 80% of the time and get knocked out by a suckouts from a larger stack.
When I hit I pot bet the flop aware of the draws. Then if no straight or flush is on the table I pot bet the turn and by now am in about 3/4 my stack as a rule.
Then when the river shows a card that could give someone their flush I think well my chipstack is 1/4 of whats already in the pot so I shove.
Bang bang I'm dead.
What gets me is that most of the time I will build my stack from people folding after not hitting (as well as the A rag players) and its a good things but it also ends up being what finishes me off is when someone does hit.
It's so frustrating I don't know what to do.
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07-09-2011 #1Chaser
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How do I take it to the next level
Last edited by I'mRooted; 07-09-2011 at 02:00 AM. Reason: calculated my bet to stack ratio wrong again
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07-09-2011 #2
Post self analyzed hands (using a converter would be nice), I think this would help you the most at this point. We'll be seeing exactly what you're doing and why, as it's not just about making the most +ev decision, but doing it for the right reasons.
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07-09-2011 #3Chaser
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Very generous offer> I will def take you up on it.
ThANKS
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07-09-2011 #4Chaser
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Poker Stars - $0.91+0.09 Tournament (#412915420) - Blinds: 100/200 No Limit Hold'em (8 players)
Poker Stars Hand Converter Tool from CardsChat.com
SB: t8,685
BB: t11,699
UTG: t478
UTG+1 Hero: t4,070
MP: t9,364
MP+1: t2,590
CO: t3,315
BTN: t1,340
Pre-flop: (t300) Hero is UTG+1 and dealt
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UTG raises to t478 (All-in), Hero calls t478, 5 folds, BB calls t278
Flop: (t1,534)
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BB checks, Hero bets t1,200, BB raises to t11,221 (All-in), Hero calls t2,392 (All-in), BB returned t7,629
Turn: (t8,718)
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River: (t8,718)
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I lost but should I have folded to the shove .. put big stack on a draw. He had J8hLast edited by I'mRooted; 07-09-2011 at 09:45 PM.
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07-09-2011 #5Chaser
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Poker Stars - $FreeRoll+0 Tournament (#411630479) - Blinds: 10/20 No Limit Hold'em (9 players)
Poker Stars Hand Converter Tool from CardsChat.com
SB Hero: t1,470
BB: t3,340
UTG: t1,470
UTG+1: t3,020
MP: t2,850
MP+1: t1,500
MP+2: t1,360
CO: t1,500
BTN: t1,490
Pre-flop: (t30) Hero is SB and dealt
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2 folds, MP calls t20, MP+1 folds, MP+2 raises to t980, 2 folds, Hero calls t970, MP folds
Flop: (t2,000)
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Hero bets t490 (All-in), MP+2 calls t380 (All-in), Hero returned t110
Turn: (t2,760)
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River: (t2,760)
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This my other bust out so far today. I didn't like calling such a big raise so early in a tournament. But I noticed he was a light raiser and couldn't figure why he didn't just raise all in with a monster if he was hoping to double up. My AK was suited so I called. Really just wondering if I should have let it go and avoided a coin flip at this stage of the game. He had 99Last edited by I'mRooted; 07-09-2011 at 09:45 PM.
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07-09-2011 #6
Edit - this was on the freeroll hand, didn't notice you had posted another.
I'd probably just shove over preflop since you're committed if you call anyways, and it sucks to miss the flop and have to call because folding leaving 500 chips behind and "lolpotodds". On the flop he will shove his last 500 into a 2000 pot. So you'll be putting in 500 into a total of 3000 pot, meaning you'll need about a 16.6% chance to win, and you just gotta call since you have outs.
AKs is a strong hand, you're flipping against decent players, but a freeroll doesn't have a lot of decent players. A good amount of time you'll find yourself against Pocket Pairs, dominated aces, and weird junk.
The only hand you're really worried about with is AA, at least against KK you still have a live A. You hold blockers to both AA&KK, which helps a lot. Normally there are 6 combos of AA and KK each, but with blockers you reduce the combos down to 3 each. This is also why you'll see a lot of AK vs QQ.Last edited by KnightofNarg; 07-09-2011 at 09:51 PM.
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07-09-2011 #7
gotta get some sleep, i'll think about the other hand a bit and post in the morning.
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07-09-2011 #8Chaser
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Poker Stars - $2.00+0.20 Tournament (#410072071) - Blinds: 50/100 +10 Ante, No Limit Hold'em (6 players)
Poker Stars Hand Converter Tool from CardsChat.com
SB: t2,640
BB: t6,685
UTG Hero: t15,455
MP: t27,515
CO: t6,650
BTN: t3,130
Pre-flop: (t150) Hero is UTG and dealt
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Hero raises to t300, MP calls t300, 3 folds, BB calls t200
Flop: (t950)
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BB checks, Hero bets t800, MP calls t800, BB folds
Turn: (t2,550)
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Hero bets t2,400, MP calls t2,400
River: (t7,350)
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Hero bets t7,500, MP raises to t15,000, Hero calls t4,445 (All-in), MP returned t3,055
*** SHOW DOWN ***
19ygy: shows [3h Kh] (three of a kind, Threes)
I'm Rooted: shows [Qd Ks] (two pair, Queens and Threes)
19ygy collected 31300 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 31300 | Rake 0
Board [3s 5s Qh 3c 7c]
Seat 1: killerB17 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Chatti777 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: I'm Rooted showed [Qd Ks] and lost with two pair, Queens and Threes
Seat 4: 19ygy showed [3h Kh] and won (31300) with three of a kind, Threes
Seat 5: Moksi009 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: MEIRENHC (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
I raised KQ under the gun as the table was playing loose and I has established a solid TAG image.
When the villain flat called my raise I put him on small pockets or decent suited connectors and the money to play them.
I flopped the Q and bet half the pot since I felt I was ahead but the K kicker left me slightly vulnerable.
I got flat called by the villain and thought ok he's probably just calling my c-bet sized bet into the flop because he can
The turned uncovered another 3 which I discounted and went in hard and pot bet expecting a fold.
When he called my heart sank. Pocket 5's? Trapping with AA KK? Either way things were getting ugly fast.
Given my past experience with being flushed out of tournaments my gut still said hes a being a fish sitting on 2 spades. His massive chipstack also supported my theory figuring he had hit some monsters on the river already.
The river comes up clubs with a 7 which was no threat as far as I was concerned.
Now I'm thinking jackpot! And put in another pot sized bet (maybe should have shoved since I was under the delusion I was ahead) and BAM insta shove from the villain.
Here is where I face my dilemma again. 3/4 of my chips are already in the pot and I dont think he is bluffing.
Had I folded at this point I would still have had an avg sized chipstack but not the heart to play it so I called.
The end.
Called it a day at this point as no-longer in the right head space to win a new tournament.
Was a strange tournament too. My AA had gone down to A10 hitting trips on the river but I tripled up soon after with QQ on a Q44 flop where someone hit a flush on the river and someone else had J4 that was followed by QQ losing to a short stack who shoved back with 99 and hit a set. I generally prefer to avoid confrontations and steal some blinds and the odd pot I bet hard if I flop well.
My stats tend to be 15-20% hands played and for every 20 hands it will show me at around 15/20 pots won. 5 from showdown and 10 from folds.
ROI is positive but that was mostly from winning a $1.10 842 player MTT a couple of months back.Last edited by I'mRooted; 07-09-2011 at 11:37 PM.
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07-10-2011 #9
AsKh hand.
I probably 3bet preflop to 1000 since flatting invites people to call behind.
As played, betting flop is good, his checkraise really sucks though. He's never bluffing here since it's a protected pot, but you're priced in to call.
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 33.374% 21.26% 12.11% 5263 2997.00 { AsKh }
Hand 1: 66.626% 54.52% 12.11% 13493 2997.00 { JJ, 88, AKs, AJs, KsQs, KsTs, QsTs, J8s, Ts9s, 9s7s, AKo, AJo }
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07-12-2011 #10Chaser
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Yeah I have been using a new mantra "respect the bet" and feel silly holding onto AK because I hit the Ace. My ongoing frustration at being beat by A-rag reflects a problem in my game although that wasn't the situation here it easily could have been.
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