PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed)

UTG ($$5.95)
UTG+1 ($$41.05)
MP1 ($$3.75)
MP2 ($$14.35)
MP3 ($$16.90)
Hero ($$13.65)
Button ($$18.35)
SB ($$24.75)
BB (bastard) ($$28.90)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Qs, Ts.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, MP3 folds, Hero calls $0.25, Button folds, SB folds, BB (bastard) checks.

Flop: ($1) 6s, 5s, 9s (3 players)
bastard checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $1, bastard raises to $2, MP2 folds, Hero raises to $3.75, bastard calls $1.75.

Turn: ($8.50) 2s (2 players)
bastard bets $10, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $18.50
Main Pot: $8.50, won by bastard.
Pot 2: $10, returned to bastard.

Results below:
No showdown. bastard wins $18.50.

Yeah yeah, I shouldn't be on the .1/.25 tables. But I was thinking about what Goose has said about experiments and such, and I've decided on a little system I'm going to use to build up da roll faster. Essentially it goes like this: Each day I have 10 bucks to play on the .1/.25 tables, if I win a fair amount (say, 12 bucks), then I get off it and go back to pennies for a bit (and maybe go on .1/.25 again shortly after). If I lose the money, then I must get that 10 bucks back on the penny tables before I try .1/.25 again. But the 12 bucks I make, cannot be touched until my roll reaches X amount. Once it reaches that amount, then off to .1/.25 I go permantly (hopefully).

So in the 1.5 hours I've played .1/.25, I'm up 24 bucks and change without a single real bad beat.

Ok, Now about this hand... I had just won a nice pot a few hands earlier, and was very pleased with this flop. But I feel that I really messed up my bet on the flop... when he raised, should I not go allin there? The turn card freaked me out and I mucked because I was sure he had Ace or king of spades.

Course he showed his hand after, and I was a little ticked off to see 2 aces... None of which were spades .

10 min later I doubled up to 22 bucks with the ladies, and left. This isn't the first time 'bastard' has bluffed me out of the pot. He did it to me the day before on the penny tables... Yup that blows. lol

Cheers,

Mike

PS. So how would you have played it?

PSS. Another reason I wanna make this semi transition is because my roll is larger than it has ever been, and I have experienced what can happen to a careless player on .1/.25 already... I'll try to be careful and hope that it doesn't happen again lol .

I think pennies tables instill such bad habits. I'm getting used to .10/.25 and I like your idea of building a roll.


Anyways about your hand, were you trying to slow play them? I think whenever you flop a flush with low cards(Q through 3) you should bet hard because the turn or river could bring another suited card which could give somebody with AKo the nut flush.

The odds of you have 2 spades, turning 4 spades, and him having 2 spades is low. Thats 8/12 spades "shown". Sure it's possible, but not likely.

Of course I don't blame you for folding because that's alot of money to play on a whim.

Hey,

I guess I was thinking about stringing him along, but then when that spade hit on turn, I knew I shouldn't've bet harder on flop... I felt kinda stupid afterwards. My reraise on flop should've been like 5 bucks more (or just allin). if he folds, then I take down a reasonable pot.

I think we're really cutting ourselves short when we go into .1/.25 with only 10 bucks. I hate calling a few bets only to see my stack cut in half lol. But I understand that with such small rolls as we have, we shouldn't be risking more than 10 (but I might start coming in with 11 so the blinds don't eat it so quickly).

I look forward to the day when my roll can handle the max buyin.

Y'know when you were watching me, and I won that wimpy 2.50 pot or whatever it was without showdown? When I bet 1 buck and he folded? That was a total flush bluff lol! All I had was PP of 4s rofl!

Cheers,

Mike

PS. I'm going to be on tonight after I watch the soccer game (they're replaying it on TV). Hope to see you on.

its a tuff situation were u positive ur hand was best on the flop? thats wat im thinking. u might not of even been best on the flop. well if u thought u were best on that flop u gotta bet more i dont see y u would wanna slow play it wen ur hand is so vulnerable....

mayb he turned a sf on the turn? 34s mayb he had a sf on the flop? 78s

anyway mayb had k9 or a9 or sumtin n u didnt pay enough for him to draw wen u had the best hand

Wow that's tough. Even if you pushed harder on the flop I think he still would have made that bluff on the turn. (unless you go all-in of course)

If he really had it I think he would've gone for a check-raise. And we know that he's capable of that play because he used it on the flop. He also overbet the pot on the turn. Then again if he's a crafty player he might be trying to send misinformation to make you think that he wants to get paid off. I think I wuold folded like you.

I think in general it's best to avoid tricky players. No PFR with AA, a check-raise on the flop, big bluff on the turn. This guy would make me go insane.

spooky

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why wouldnt you just push all in since he obviously represents enough strength with his reraise to call an all in..you flopped 3rd nut flush.or w/e. But not reraising all in would be pointless because if there wasnt a 4th of that suit on turn you would still bet it aggressively and most likely get all of your money in then, so why not do it on flop instead?

Pushing $12 into a $4 pot is a little ridiculous. Making the minimum re-raise was a little bit of Mike Caro's Fancy Play Syndrome. Re-raising to about $6 isn't bad. Fuck what people say about pot committed. It's a cash game. You can still fold to a 4th spade and reload.

This does force him to THINK that you're pot committed. But pot committed in a cash game is borderline justification for fishing, of course, in my book. It's hard for him to bet into you for $6 on a bluff into a $16 pot, assuming he has a head of some sorts.

But, I would re-raised more and I would've folded to a bet on the turn.

One question though... Why did you only have $13 going into this hand?

Being pot committed means just as much in a cash game as it does in a tournament. If you already have a lot of money in a pot, then you probably are getting the right odds to stay in, so you don't lose the chips you've committed. The same principle applies to both tournies and games.

*re-reads Alex's post*

...although yeah, $12 into the $4 pot is ridiculous. Can't deny that.