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Old 07-30-2007, 06:04 PM
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I meant no rake for the public as in like fulltilt
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Rake - The money poker sites take from each pot/tournamnet to make their profit

Rakeback - Regular players can get rakeback deals where they get a percentage of the rake returned. This works as a form of customer retention.

PokerStars does not allow rakeback deals, but has rake.
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yeah thanks for clearing that up....
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haha and nice avatar
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rake is how the sites make money.
rake back is a disscount a 3rd party will give you for paying rake (like they payback 30%)

I have never gotten rakeback
I'd prolly have 2-3k extra in $ had I done it when I started

bottom line; when you start laying cash games, make sure you sign up to the site through a rakeback provider.
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I meant no rake for the public as in like fulltilt
uhhh, what?
full tilt definitely has rake too. i think maybe you're confusing rake and rakeback?
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hey im new here too, just started playing real money on pokerstars. i was wondering whats the best deal to get some rakeback?

any help appreciated
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None for stars, they only have a pretty crud $50 first deposit bonus.
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Rake is the 5-10% the poker room takes from each pot. This amount often gets so significant that it becomes almost impossible to win at low limits. Of course I never believed it until I experienced rake back deals and at the moment 100%
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Most sites will take a max rake out of each pot of $3, with less being the standard depending on the pot size.

My understanding is that the rake a site takes from each pot is extremely prohibitive on your potential earn rate, and doesn't begin to level out until you are playing the 5/10 limit or higher games.

Here's an example. Let's say you're playing a 2/4 game with an average pot size of 10bb's, so $40. If the site rakes $3 that represents 0.75 bb of profit at that limit.

Now, if you're playing a $5/$10 game and the pot is $100 and they take $3 out, that represents 0.30 bb of profit.

Depending on the games you play, a good player will see anywhere from 1-5bb's/hr, so the more you can lessen the effect of rake, the better.

At a 10/20 game with a $200 pot the $3 in rake represents 0.15 bb of profit and so forth.

Most low limit players can add an extra 20 bucks to a few hundred each month, depending on the limits they play, how often, etc.

I personally maxed out around 1500-2000 in one month, but regularly made 800-1200 multi-tabling the 10/20 and 15/30 Omaha hi/lo games. I've seen some players who made 3-5 grand or more every month on a regular basis, just in rakeback alone (but they're hardcore, so don't expect to be there yourself for a long time, if ever)

I am not a rakeback provider, but my site does have information on them and frequently asked questions about rakeback.

Pokerstars does not offer rakeback, and is pretty stingy on deposit and reload bonuses as well, although their player points system is well liked (I'd rather have cash myself though)

Full Tilt has rakeback, but they deduct a lot of stuff from your MGR (monthly gross revenue), so players new to rakeback get all frazzled when they aren't bringing in tons of money right away with FTP because of their deductions (an affiliate can explain the deducations better, but in the end it's still better than playing without rakeback, and FTP is one of the larger and more active sites, so better table selection)
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