I was playing my 8th game last night - so i still consider myself a newb. It was no-limit Texas hold um (real cards, not online) - and it was down to me and another guy. There were 8 players out waiting to get into the next game, including one guy who had to go to work soon.

I personally have very little care about how I finish - so in an effort to get it over with quickly I went all in, in the blind till the end. My intentions was a) to let the guy win and b) get the other folks back into a game as soon as possible.

Well as my bad luck would have it I won in about 3 hands and the other player was furious. He stood up left the table steaming. I was then told by over half the table how I was impolite. The dealer even went so far as to call me an a55hole in a round about way.

Now, I'm new to all this as I said, but I find this total BS.

First off I personally think the 2 player heads up is the most boring part of the game. I have a strong suspicion that as a player your ability to affect the outcome is probably in the 10ths of a percent, but I have never seen the math.

While I will take my lesson learned and in the future give in to what I think is BS, what is the general thought about what I did? Has anyone seen any math to say whether or not there is really any game play in the final heads up?

There's definately gameplay heads up, of course if you're always just pushing any 2 and getting called then that's a little different. What would cause you to think heads up on the end is any different of a gameplay as opposed to you and another guy going to the flop in a full game? The main difference is you starting hand requirements, in a full game you have more options to wait for better hands, HU you HAVE to play or you'll get blinded out eventually. While the cards will have an effect HU is all about how you can/can't outplay your opponent.

As for as the dealer giving you a hard time I'd be more aggreveated at that.

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"in a full game you have more options to wait for better hands, HU you HAVE to play or you'll get blinded out eventually"

That's exactly the difference. Everything I have seen and read says go loose in the end. If you don't go loose, the other player will and 9 times out of 10, luck will win. It ends up just being how the cards come up and very very little else.

At least that's what I believe at the moment. Like I said, I've played 8 real games. Although I have also played 10,000 AI games. In the end, gameplay never had any influence on the HU.

That other player was mad because he couldn't "outplay" you and the game became a crap shoot. Don't worry about what other people want to do, they wouldn't finish up the game quickly because YOU wanted to play again.

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You did exactly the right thing, probably you would've lost if you had tried to outplay him.

Heads up is quite difficult to play, dependent on your position and cards you have to place the right bets or raises.

If you go all in position doesn't matter anymore and bluffing isn't possible either.

ya obviously the other player wasnt any good, because going all in isnt against the rules or anything...i can understand why he was upset and steaming but he still lost, just needs to get over it. and you didnt do anything wrong cause ive done that before when i had to leave, no big deal.

If by AI you mean artificial intellegence (usually it stands for "All In" on here). The difference being is your not playing against a thinking person who may make decisions based on your actions.

If you're looking to learn more about tournament poker I'd recomend getting Harrington on Hole Em Vol. I and II.

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There's a huge amount of skill heads up.

You can eliminate most of it by doing what you did and that is entirely your perogative.

You dont play to win and it is bad luck when you do win?? what is good luck?

as for what people think don't worry about it, personally if someone was in a hurry i am going to play as slow as i possibly can just to get them tilted as much as i can because they are going to get mad and impaitent. Poker is all about advantages I don't know if going all in blind is the best strategy but it works you should be happy and not care what the other people said

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If there wern't luck involed i guess id win everyone

Haha, Now thats BS. Saying that Heads up ask less skill is total BS. When Im heads up against a fish I will win 90 %. I will control the game so much that he wont know what to do. In a 6-8 handed game a lot of flop are going to be heads up by the way.

Its actually the part of the game I like the most. I build my BR online with heads up.To perfom at NL Hold em heads up you need balls and you got to know when to push.

Pushing all-in every single hand pf is just dumb. I understand why they were mad.

The goal when playing poker is to win $ just like the goal at hockey is to score in the net. Giving up is just lame and anti-sportive.

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