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Old 05-12-2006, 10:56 AM
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No, it isn't "just dumb" depending on the blnds.

If your opponent is playing too tightlly, and the blinds are high enough it is the perfect way to play.

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Haha, Now thats BS. Saying that Heads up ask less skill is total BS. When Im heads up against a fish I will win 90 %. I will control the game so much that he wont know what to do. In a 6-8 handed game a lot of flop are going to be heads up by the way.

Its actually the part of the game I like the most. I build my BR online with heads up.To perfom at NL Hold em heads up you need balls and you got to know when to push.

Pushing all-in every single hand pf is just dumb. I understand why they were mad.

The goal when playing poker is to win $ just like the goal at hockey is to score in the net. Giving up is just lame and anti-sportive.
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Old 05-12-2006, 10:59 AM
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yeah of course, it depend of the blinds

Exemple I have 400 chips left and my opponent has 2600, I will push all-in almost every hands to steal his blinds and hope he will call my all-in when I will have a good hand.


I played once a guy who played ALL hands all-in, from the first hand to the last (when he lost) I folded till I get AA, then he continued, I called with AJ and I won.
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Well I guess I am glad there are varying opinions. And NO right answers.

Two things; I did not mention blinds - in our little group by the time it goes final 2 (is that head to head or heads up? I am only referring to when there is 2 people left at the table in all-in) the blinds are high enough that is usually is whoever wins 2 in a row wins. That's part of why I say there is no real game play. If the blinds went back to something smaller then yeah, I can see where you have to play.

The second point is the most important and I have thought about it for a while. This whole I can read you better than you can read me is an ego trip. I know I have terrible body language, and if you can’t read me you haven’t made it through first grade. It is therefore my best strategy to take the disadvantage away - and I therefore did the best strategic play (albeit for the wrong reasons at the time). I originally said I wouldn’t do it again out of courtesy. I now know I WILL do it exactly the same next time, because it gives me 50/50 odds and that’s the best I can hope for. Sore losers will just have to cry.

Thanks for the inputs.
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Old 05-12-2006, 11:16 AM
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50/50 odds ?

not really. it will give you the cards odds.

And if at the moment you reach heads up the blinds are too high for a decent gameplay it is the fault of the blinds structure, nothing else.

If you have a total of 10 000 chips in play, the blinds should be no much more than 200/400 with an ante once heads up.
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Yup, doesn't give you 50/50 cause the other guy can choose when to call or push. Close to it but not 50/50
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Old 05-12-2006, 12:27 PM
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There was an article about this strategy in cardplayer not sure which issue but not to long ago, called are you sage? and talked about going all in with a wide range of hands based on your chip stack and the blinds
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Yeah, I consider that to be an asshole move. People doing that piss me off to no end. If you want to lose, cut a deal. Offer to chop the pool based on stack size or whatever you want.

And yes, there is a LOT of skill to HU play. So much skill in fact, that a good player can play HU blind (not looking at his cards) and do ok. It's no longer about what you have, it's about what he doesn't have.
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"And yes, there is a LOT of skill to HU play. So much skill in fact, that a good player can play HU blind (not looking at his cards) and do ok. It's no longer about what you have, it's about what he doesn't have."

Yep, there's one of those egos I was laughing about. WTF is the difference dude? Other than someone thinking they are a great player? Please.
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If you have a total of 10 000 chips in play, the blinds should be no much more than 200/400 with an ante once heads up.
I think that's the problem - there are 50,000 in chips total and the blinds are at 6,000/12,000. Assuming there's a relatively split pot, you are forced to bet close to half you stack every other hand. It's not poker, it's not about skill, it's flipping a coin.
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"And yes, there is a LOT of skill to HU play. So much skill in fact, that a good player can play HU blind (not looking at his cards) and do ok. It's no longer about what you have, it's about what he doesn't have."

Yep, there's one of those egos I was laughing about. WTF is the difference dude? Other than someone thinking they are a great player? Please.
This shows exactly how ignorant you are.

Now yes, in this situation, with the blinds as such, there isn't much you can do, but to generalize all HU play as such is ignorance.
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